zorin woulda been a solid contender if it weren’t for the crew involved and its murky path forward. but as a first, “see it ain’t that bad” step, sure.

can’t give the thing out as-is, there’s a buncha stuff in there pertaining to our infra. restructuring and refactoring it (the thing doesn’t even use roles, just a gargantuan yml file with tasks) is long overdue and I thought your query would be the thing that pushes me over the line to finally do it, but after an hour with it I gave up it’s just too big of a mess.

I had the same path as you, was irritated that maintaining idempotency of the existing bash scripts was such a huge task, so started piece by piece, one task, test, add another, etc. mainly by following jeff geerling’s guides and then venturing out on my own by reading the official docs. tried utilizing bullshitgpt on a coupla occasions, but the thing constantly made up shit that doesn’t exist costing me time I ain’t got, so I gave up on it.

400+ installs in the past four years - discarded/donated business laptops that get fixed, cleaned, upgraded with cheapest SSDs and donated to predominantly tech illiterate users.

99% is ubuntu lts + ansible playbook that removes snap, disables A TON of update naggings, installs flatpak, coupla apps and systemd timer to autoupdate all flatpaks. this is the only thing that has low support requests, everything else we tried (mint, debian, fedora) has a disproportionately higher support request frequency (reinstalls, wifi, fix this, remove that, etc).

I totally could adapt debian to be as good or even better (fedora with the bi-annual versions is right out), but one of the important caveats is the user being able to install it with minimum hassle if needed and that just would not be doable.

I’d urge everyone ITT to look at the thing through the user’s eyes and not get lost in “no true scottsman” fallacies. the goal is to convert a user over, not to demonstrate how cool you are. once they know what’s what, you can sell them on fedora and atomic and whatnot, but not as a first step.

I don’t use ubuntu, have it on none of my stuff, and wouldn’t go out with you if you do. but it’s presently the only option for beginners for use on laptops that has a semblance of a modern desktop OS.

all my hardware is recycled trash, so I ain’t got experience with those modern 12th gens, but what worked (and phenomenally so) for my old heaps is implementing suspend-then-hibernate, a feature that’s off by default and you gotta put in some leg work to make it work, especially on fedora due to zram.

this works reliably on every platform I tried - sandybridge macbooks, coffeelake and ryzen zen plus thinkpads, etc. regardless of UEFI sleep support. you leave it in standby and if you don’t touch for, say, an hour, it dumps the RAM to SSD and turns off all power - zero battery drain! when you “wake” it, it restores RAM from the SSD and gives you your lock screen login and this is faster than cold boot and all your shit is how you left it!

once it works, it works like a mac - you leave your laptop for hours, days, weeks and comes back up how you left it, with the battery barely losing a percentage point.

those are still connected via USB internally most of the times, type lsusb and if it’s there, same thing applies.

if your BT is connected via USB (lsusb), there’s a buncha kernel switches that prevent it from suspending. since it’s a stationary device that’s often not needed, so disabling USB and BT autosuspend goes a long way to make them things behave.

I mean, just imagine you’re spitting game at cutie at the bar and things are cooking and you go “hit me up on hkmbljurgh” and all of a sudden fire and brimstone all around kthulu cthulhu appears wondering why you summoned him them you scream sorry bro wrong number bro kthulu goes its aight but he they missed a dentist’s appointment because of this the barkeep is now pissed who’s gonna clean this up cutie is nowhere to be found…

shoulda gone with signal is what I’m saying

thank you! I am also one of the dozens of people who can read, what are the odds we come across one another on lemmy of all places, huh?

while I have you here, would you say that giving unpronounceable welsh names to new entrants attempting to challenge established players with a decade+ strong foothold in this space is a) a prudent decision or b) hella stupid?

we got issues switching normies to signal which has been around forever, how’s tongue-breaker gonna make any progress?

my old guy is on the case:

that’s 2011 tech, works like it came off the line yesterday. here’s to many more versions!

good work, hopefully it’ll get integrated with lutris, no reason to be a standalone thing with duplicated work. I can totally see this become the basis of some bazzite-adjacent corpo-free alternative.

rectangle app

Imma be the problemXY guy here - ditch the https part. without it, you don’t gotta deal with certs, signing, shit that’s outside your LAN, etc. it’s your LAN, do you really need that level of security? who’s gonna sniff packets and shit on your LAN?

now all you need is pihole where you set up your hostnames (jellyfin.lan, nextcloud.lan, etc.) and nginx proxy that maps e.g. jellyfin.lan to 192.168.0.123:8096. both of them run plenty fine in docker.

oh, I’m sure it didn’t help any. wanted to switch to 1080p (although it ran a normal F41 Plasma just fine) from the get go but I couldn’t until everything was installed and I was logged in. but even then it didn’t feel drastically better. so I’m sure this runs way better on competent hardware, but for me there was no point in sticking around to tweak it as I have no use for this thing in my home.

I’m gonna hate on the thing. had high hopes from all the rave reviews so my disappointment was commensurate.

you missed to state your config, and Imma assume it’s a high-end system. how do I know? because I ran it on weak hardware and it was molasses slow. Ryzen 4650u, 16 GB DDR4, 500 GB NVMe and whatever graphics it has integrated, some rando controller, connected to a 40" 4K display, let’s see what the hubbub is all about…

the install process, forgetaboutit. can’t believe they piggy-backed off of the broken-est installer out there, fedora’s calamares. dog help you if you need anything but the vanilla-est install, as any changes to partitions result in unrecoverable install errors. as I understand it, there’s a whole-ass fedora install that isn’t needed for anything but to run the installer - hence the hefty size, about twice that of a regular install ISO.

once installed, what everyone and their uncle forgot to mention during the rave reviews (and you kinda glossed over) is that a steam account is fucking mandatory. like, you can’t even log in, switch to desktop mode, change resolution, nada. if you just want local-only games - get bent, you hafta go through us to access shit on your own computer! not only does this rub me the wrong way, I got no such spy/adware on any of my other devices.

I got no windows with the mandatory online account, no Google TV with the mandatory online account, ditched Plex because it won’t run with no internet, got no Android with a Google account… why would I make an exception in this case? what, gabe the yacht owner is “our people”? he isn’t and I won’t.

it’s highly impractical for everyday use (will it behave without internet?), not to mention - it’s fucking superfluous. I got no games on there, no intention or way of getting them from there and I give a total of zero fucks about the chit-chat rooms and achievements and other crap presented therein.

handling “alternatively” acquired games is a fucking chore. switch to desktop mode, do the thing there, then manually add and tweak them in steam’s UI and add missing graphics and stuff and switch back and forth until it’s all in order - you best believe the switch isn’t instantaneous. it’s not really a huge deal as you don’t do that multiple times per day (or even daily), but I don’t see why this couldn’t have been a controller-only-interface activity.

speaking of desktop mode, this was my first contact with the immutable, atomic, cloudnative, whatchamacallit concept and for me, this thing blows elephant fucking dick. it is so slow, cumbersome, inefficient… if you thought regular dnf and flatpak installs and upgrades are slow, installing anything here takes fuckin eons. and the constant restart prompts for this and that, dios mio!

finally, everything feels sooo slow and clunky. I get that my puny hardware can’t handle modern titles, but browsing the UI and interacting with the system shouldn’t be even close to a demanding task.

so mad props to the team who made this happen, I get how this is an impressive engineering feat to weld all them things together in a sorta cohesive way, but I feel some of the things I mentioned shoulda been way more prominently featured before us clueless folk decide to switch to it.

what/how do you run LLM on a RX 580? I thought ROCM was for RX 6xxx and newer?

ugh… having been involved with a coupla hardware businesses, asking the public what they think about a future product is hella stupid and then basing your decision on that is hella stupid. especially when you’re a minor player with few options available and a history of scamming clients not being china-supply-chain-savvy. out of all them questions, the only ones I’d find useful is the geo distribution.

as to the product itself, jolla is on my shit list on account of taking from the FOSS world and giving dick back; their “community version” for xperias exclusively and paid licenses can get fucked.

no, I mean the drive is encrypted and I don’t gotta bother with shred.

I’ve recently upgraded my hard drives used for storage. and because I ain’t made of money, I wanted to sell the old drives. shredding those things took ages (4 TB drives). lesson learned, new drives are btrfs + LUKS that gets unlocked via key file. so when the time comes to sell those, I won’t bother with shredding, just sell them as is.

anyone tried Catapult? what state is it in?

to answer your question - if you wanna eventually talk to normies. like cute boy/girl you meet at a bar or a business contact from a random meet. even Signal has dogshit penetration compared to the big players, so XMPP/Matrix/Briar/etc aren’t even a blip on the dradis.

also, you sorta sidestepped the UX. if you’re coming off the hyper-polished world of Telelgram and iMessage, all those things have dogshit UX. yes, you’ll eventually find your way around them but you have to be motivated to endure them ugly and slow and unrealiable apps (comparatively speaking); you got that shit covered, your contacts do not.

the situation is kinda like with The Linux Desktop - it’s competing with gargantuan corpos with unlimited resources, and to add to that the miniscule dev teams aren’t working together, they’re competing, pulling in different direction (Gnome, Plasma, Cinnamon, etc.) with duplicated efforts and tons of abandoned paths. can you imagine where we’d be if all that dev effort went towards one goal?

same thing with the messenger space, it’s doubtful any of them will become mainstream, but they have their uses.