I’m talking about when you update the system. Unless you reboot to do the update, the system can be using outdated binaries until you reboot. Apt will tell you about them, but I don’t know about other package managers.

This is the best solution.

Yeah, a file system snapshot is another way of achieving safe upgrades. There are upsides and downsides of all approaches though.

Rolling back to a btrfs snapshot might be harder than just picking the other ostree image in GRUB. And you still have the problem where old binaries might be running when only the new binaries/libraries exist on disk. But it also saves space on disk compared to an immutable distro, and it’s much easier to make changes to system files. Every approach is a compromise.

It’s cause of the way an immutable system works. In an immutable system, the entire system is an image. Two are stored on disk. One is active, and the other is usually the previous image. When you update, it overwrites the old image. The current image stays untouched. It’s only once the new image is completely written to disk that it’s marked as the current image.

Package managers are working on the currently running system. They write over the only set of system files, and they can only do that one file at a time, so you can rely on the file system’s journal to make sure each file is correctly written, but there’s nothing preventing the system from being only half updated. If a package relies on a package that hasn’t been installed yet, and the update fails before it gets installed, that package is broken.

In a system like Ubuntu or Fedora, that’s mostly ok, because packages are always built for the kernel and library versions available throughout the lifecycle of the release. So a half updated system is probably fine and will continue the update when rebooted. But for rolling releases like Arch, or for a release upgrade like Ubuntu 25.10 to Ubuntu 26.04, a failed update might mean a broken system.

The copilot butthole has easy access safety flaps.

Fresh grime! Get your fresh grime here!

Your latest meal gave you explosive diarrhea.

All of my meals give me explosive diarrhea.

We are not the same.

Run an update on a traditional system, and pull the power plug out when it’s half way through. If it recovers when you reboot it, you got pretty lucky.

Now do the same with an immutable system like Bazzite. It will be running the pre-update image when you reboot it. No harm done. It’s essentially impossible for an update (or even a failed update) to brick the system. You can always roll back to the last working image.

I thought he was going to rewrite the entire stack. He said with 100% confidence that that’s what was needed. He even got incredibly angry when someone asked him to explain what was wrong with the existing stack and which parts would be rewritten.

Bazzite is awesome. Not surprised it’s so successful. Congrats to the team. :)

I’m still on the waitlist. :(

I think that’s a medical condition.

Yes, but they make a passenger version of this van, and they make a cargo version of the ID Buzz, so they are comparable.

Fedora. Better than Ubuntu in pretty much every regard.

You’re gonna get your ear poked.

All apps developed by AI use useless, annoying, battery draining animations. That’s why you have to close them once you’re done if you want any battery life at all. The Suno app will chew through 50% of my battery in an hour.

Nothing stopping you. Well, except for the federal government and its military.

I definitely agree. Lol. But I also totally understand using Discord. I assume the community isn’t meant exclusively for people who currently self host, but also for people interested in starting to. In that regard, Discord will most likely be what those people have and are willing to use.

It is such an amazing vehicle!! You’re gonna love it. :)

The problem with cheaper vans of this size is that the large thin panels (like the roof) will flex and bend when you go over bumps. That causes slight changes in internal air pressure as you’re driving which you feel in your ears. Adults generally don’t mind, but children will dislike it and babies will often start crying (think about how babies cry on airplanes for the same reason).

So, for cargo, or for driving adults around, yeah, this may be a great deal, but for families, it’s probably a no-go.

If you watch reviews of this particular van, that’s a problem that is specifically called out.