Were you 100% certain this problem was going to last as long as it has? Yeah, neither was anyone else.

The entire cooling system is designed around those processors. Changing them would delay the Steam Machine by multiple years. Also, those processors may be old (or more accurately, based on an older architecture), but they’re certainly not shitty.

As long as he keeps to himself, I don’t care. It’s when he a. annoys me or other devs by asking questions that are already answered in the documentation or readily available online, or b. tells people how hard/terrible Linux is because he had a bad experience using a thing he purposefully misunderstood, that he becomes a problem for the Linux community. Then, I care.

We should not be encouraging people to try Linux if they are the kind of people who do those things.

The next argument is, “well, we should make Linux friendly to Windows users,” and I think that mentality is disgusting. Windows has dog shit UX, and we 100% should not be borrowing from it.

I am a software engineer who believes software engineers should be paid for their work. I use Linux. Do I mean nothing to you??

I think most Linux users don’t have a problem with things like RHEL. I personally think it’s great. I don’t personally use it, but I have absolutely no problem with it.

The actual problem Linux users care about is when people use and modify the Linux kernel (or any other GPL project), distribute the binaries, but don’t distribute the source code. (I’m looking at you, Sony.)

That’s what I mean though. Like, if Linus had asked me if he should switch to Linux, I would have said no. He’s not good with computers. He’s kind of an idiot. And he’s also not a big fan of reading.

Whereas I would say Switch and Click is a great candidate for switching to Linux because she clearly knew that she knew very little about it (at the time), and she wanted to learn. She didn’t go into it thinking all of her knowledge of Windows would translate to knowledge of Linux like Linus did.

So I guess what I mean is we shouldn’t be encouraging everyone to switch to Linux, like you said. Some people just want the easiest, least thought required solution, and that’s Windows. Everything “just works” (except when it doesn’t), because when it doesn’t work, Windows users just think “oh, computers can’t do that”. (Or they pay someone else to do it, eg Geek Squad.)

Because people are afraid of things they’re unfamiliar with, and like you said, they’re not familiar with Linux.

I don’t really care what Windows users think of Linux users. If someone wants to switch, good for them. If they don’t, good for them. But if they ask stupid questions online instead of reading the fucking manual, yeah, I’ll berate them. If they want nice hand holdy support staff, stay on Windows, where they literally pay for that. If they’re not afraid to be called an idiot when they’re being an idiot, then welcome to the herd.

Linux users have a reputation for being assholes because we’re not support staff. We’re not paid to help noobies, so we’ll help, because we’re nice, but we’ll be real about it, because we don’t like people wasting our time.

If someone is genuinely a noob, and is asking because they truly don’t know, then I’ll try to be nice, but we get a lot of people who are used to doing things on Windows, think they’re experts, and come in and be assholes themselves because Linux has the absolute gall to be different from Windows, something that was brand new when Linux was written as a clone of something that had been around for 20 years.

I’m basing off of the fact that Microsoft doesn’t even use Windows for their server fleets. Windows makes a terrible server.

Yeah, I know that. It would probably be BSD though. Doesn’t change what I said. They’d be ignorant of whatever else it was. It definitely wouldn’t be Windows though. Proprietary systems would never work for things like server farms that have 500,000 servers.

I do believe this is the first Proxmox meme I’ve ever seen. Nice.

I feel like the AI industry did this to themselves by absolutely shoving it down our throats at every possible chance they had.

AI in general isn’t a bad technology, it just has very limited use cases where it’s actually good at things. Most things it’s used for are things it’s bad at. Kind of like using a steam locomotive to clean the bottom of your pool.

TempleOS users in this post:

Do we want the kind of people who are afraid of Linux to switch to Linux though? I feel like those people should stay on Windows until Linux adoption is just too overwhelming. Let the people who actually want to explore and try new things switch first, cause they’ll be more useful at providing feedback, and less likely to hurt the community.

Like, was it a good thing that Linus did his first Linux challenge? It was a lot of press, but a lot of it was bad. Maybe that is a good thing and I’m just wrong here. I feel like in his second challenge he was much more open to actually trying something new, and kind of realized that he doesn’t actually know anything about computers, but just Windows.

Ok, but, like, who cares? If someone wants to eat a pile of shit to stick it to the burger enjoyers, let them.

It’s funny because without Linux, they wouldn’t have any of their modern luxuries, but they’re usually completely ignorant to that fact, like a bird eating fries off the ground thinking they’re really good at scavenging food.

Lol, is this still a thing? I figured that guy would have fallen in love with his AI girlfriend and given up by now.

I made pancakes and eggs. I mean pancake eggs. Egg pancake. I fertilized the pancakes, babe.

Hmm. I might be interested in switching to Vivaldi.

I honestly wasn’t trying to attack you. I think we should be careful when we talk about LLMs, because it’s important for people to know that it’s just a bunch of math in a computer program. A lot of people have a tendency to anthropomorphize it.

You said “that’s not how they work”. But that is how they work. Same prompt = same output. Throw some random data in there to jumble things around and you get a little variance. That’s the seed, and we only need to do that because LLMs are inherently deterministic.

Same reason Minecraft has a random seed for world generation, and block cipher algorithms use an initialization vector and/or feedback loop. We don’t want the same thing every time.

I did say that you’re right, because the tooling we use around the LLM itself does exactly what you’re talking about. So, in practice, you’re right.