I’d appreciate it if everyone could just stop burning fossil fuels, please. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Cake day: November 3rd, 2023

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  • I didn’t have time to watch much of that committee meeting video, but from what I did see it seems highly unlikely that they’re going to do anything to meaningfully change the situation. Time to retire all the rhetoric about Chinese companies being untrustworthy because they’re subject to secret orders to spy on their customers on behalf of their government, because the same is about to be true in Canada.

    But it wasn’t the final meeting, I guess there’s still time for some kind of miracle.




  • What the politicians get: A smug feeling of satisfaction, having done something they were told was good.

    What the children get: Anxiety, incentive to cheat the system and to keep their Internet use secret from parents, a new reason to feel that the world is unfair to them.

    What the budding “age verification” industry gets: Amazing new business opportunities.

    What Facebook gets: A regulatory barrier to entry high enough to keep out any competition from some hypothetical new form of social media that would respect its users, since that is now illegal.

    What spies and hackers get: Amazing new opportunities to steal everyone’s personal data.

    What those of us too stubborn to ever submit to “age verification” get: We’ll be unable to use regulated social media and will have to make do with the Fediverse, possibly moving to instances hosted in whatever distant corner of the world still allows free use of communications media.




  • From metafilter:

    "[…]Anyone who sees a conversation about how age verification laws are going to cause widespread significant harm to lots of different groups of people and decides instead to talk about how social media is harmful to children is doing the work of disinformation spreading propagandists.

    They might not be disinformation spreading propagandists, they might have just been duped by disinformation spreading propagandists, but either way they are doing the work of disinformation spreading propagandists.

    This is a propaganda and PR technique that is in common use today.

    This is how it works:

    Person 1 makes a point that is harmful to the narrative the PR firm has been paid to protect.

    One or more accounts on the payroll of that PR firm, who usually just posts innocuous stuff but who always has an opinion on the topic of the day, chimes in with an indirectly related smokescreen argument, usually accompanied by an accusation or an emotional appeal.

    Person 1 then gets bogged down with that argument, tacitly approving that the two topics are in fact one topic.

    Lots of people then see the argument, and come to associate the smokescreen with the real issue. Some of them will be swayed specifically by the emotionally appeal (“think of the children”) and some of them will genuinely believe in the smokescreen issue (“social media is bad for children”) and accept that the smokescreen is important enough to justify accepting whatever the original post was arguing against.

    There are lots of these PR accounts floating around out there. They’re sockpuppets. They look like real people, sometimes they are real people, but they’re also sockpuppets.

    The end result of that is a bunch of people popping in to conversations about Age Verification laws to talk about separate and legitimately important issues as if those issues and Age Verification laws are the same thing.

    And some of those people might be paid PR Sockpuppets, but some of them are definitely real people who really care about the harm social media might have on children.

    And so we spend so much time talking about the nuance and potential solutions to this much more complicated problem that the real issue (these proposed Age Verification Laws are actually tools of fascist surveillance and control which will be used to suppress dissent and harm marginalized communities) gets lost."




  • That’s getting awfully hypothetical. Should we not wait and see if the social norms of fedi continue to hold up before condemning it along with its more evil-oriented analogues?

    It seems like you are dead set on a course that leads only to concluding that humanity is evil at heart and we should all be locked up and prevented from ever being seen in public in the name of safety. In an era where so much of social life is online that’s only a few small steps beyond the idea of making everyone show their ID before they’re allowed to use the Internet. Even if it’s done in the name of safety, it works in service of oppression.


  • I’ve been exploring the fediverse for several years and have never seen anything like “body shaming videos” anywhere on it. Have you? Really? I think you’d really need to go out of your way to look for it, because any instance routinely allowing that kind of shit would be quickly blocklisted into oblivion, perhaps still in existence but unseen by casual users.

    There do exist other things that one might say are not suitable for children here and there — but on social media that respects its users they are not pushed on people who don’t want them by algorithms designed to hook into people’s anxieties and keep them dependent.




  • 61 per cent of 12-to-15-year-olds in Australia continue to hold social media accounts despite being banned, while 70 per cent said it was “easy” to circumvent the ban.

    Well there you go, at least it will do some good for young people. It will teach them how to circumvent whatever age-probing nonsense they come up with for use in Canada. It will teach them that the government can’t be trusted. It will teach them that the right to freedom of expression does not apply to youth. It will make them aware, as they approach the age where they’re able to vote, that the tradition of “good government” in Canada, if there was any life left in it, is now dead.

    For the rest of us, and for the international reputation of Canada, it will only be harmful.

    The real beneficiaries are not in Canada. They’re the American tech giants who will maintain their grip on Canada all the more tightly with this fancy new regulatory barrier to entry standing in the way of any possible competition, as the blame for whatever they continue doing to their younger users is shifted to disposable 3rd-party “age verification” providers given the job of doing the impossible.