

Theres a difference, some people use desktop Linux as their main desktop OS but very few people use mobile Linux (and significantly fewer use it as their main mobile os).
Silly goober :3
Theres a difference, some people use desktop Linux as their main desktop OS but very few people use mobile Linux (and significantly fewer use it as their main mobile os).
You have just perfectly described why mobile Linux is never going to take off, the mentality of “I dont personally need x feature therefore it’s not important”. This isnt some sort of complicated thing like nfc payment or bypassing play protect this is literally changing the audio. So many incredibly basic tasks like that require typing multiple terminal commands on mobile Linux. Even if only advanced features like system management required using the terminal it would still be too much for 99% of people (even I wouldn’t use it).
Are you willing to accept being forced to use the terminal for everything? And I mean absolutely everything, even increasing or decreasing the audio during calls
How much less security are you willing to accept? LineageOS is significantly worse in terms of security while PostmarketOS is even wose than LineageOS. Also its not just security but reliability.
Pretty much only good for a headless debian file server
Quite frankly im going to keep using GraphineOS, it doesn’t really matter for me how much Google restricts AOSP code or sideloading. As much as I care about open source I need something secure and reliable.
This is absolutely hilarious, a fully libre phone? What processor are they going to use thats 100% libre? Then what OS will it use? Android-libre? What a joke
At least give me a compilation script (recipe) :3
Im sure your intentions are good but Lemmy doesnt need more AI
Certified Pulseaudio moment
My point is that the issues with mobile Linux is so numerous and severe that the timeframe for when the average person could use it is at least seven years or more.
Sure but the GOS team has openly said that even with everything they’re still going full steam ahead on Google Pixel support. People thought GOS was going to die but we know now that it was severely overblown.
Ill address your issues with Android and then ill give my issues with mobile Linux:
Yeah this is bad but not even devastating for custom roms like GOS or LineageOS
I highly doubt Google would lock the bootloader, they still make the most friendly devices for custom roms (yes even after all they have done). Also Samsung hasnt acturally allowed custom roms for a while now while Xiaomi doesn’t either.
- Google implementing Play Integrity API and encouraging developers to implement it. Notably the EU’s own identity verification wallet requires this, in stark contrast to their own laws and policies, despite the protest of hundreds on Github.
Even if a developer used the Play Integrity API it doesn’t mean custom roms or other operating systems like GOS arent supported. I use GOS and have had no issues with play integrity, there are no incentives to require a certified Android device.
- And finally, the mandatory implementation of developer verification across Android systems. Yes, if you’re running a 3rd-party OS like GOS you won’t be directly affected by this, but it will impact 99.9% of devices, and I foresee many open source developers just opting out of developing apps for Android entirely as a result.
Sideloading isnt going anywhere and tbh I doubt this will be strongly enforced, Google will always have the threat of root resurfacing. You dont even need root to get rid of Google Play services and install MicroG.
Android as we know it is dead. And/or will be dead very soon. We need an open replacement.
That seems highly unlikely, even with everything Google has done the fact is AOSP is the only mature open source mobile project.
Now ill get to my issues with mobile Linux:
As of now there is no good hardware and no plans by any company to make good hardware in the future.
Mobile Linux interfaces are at least a decade behind Android, clunky and bearly usable. Btw yes I have tried them recently, they suck. For the most part mobile Linux interfaces are made by developers who would never acturally daily drive them.
Not a lot of Linux software supports arm and those that do either don’t work with touchscreens or have them as an afterthought.
The software that does work generals isnt designed with small screens in mind and are very often scaled down desktop apps
Basic functionality is absolutely not there on Linux phones, things like calling and texing either require commands or outright dont work at all. For example according to the Postmarketos Wiki in order to change volume on a Pixel 3a during a call you need to manually change it with commands. Genuenly what the fuck, if im on an important call the other person isnt going to wait several hours for me to fiddle with the terminal. If I need to send a text now im not waiting several hours until it works.
Mobile Linux has all the security issues as Linux with no mitigations, except phones contain a lot more personal information and are more likley to be a target for data extraction.
UX is more than the UI, it’s the entire User Experience (UX). That means scaled down desktop apps are not good substitutes for proper Mobile apps.
The requirements to make replacement Linux firmware for a TV would be
At that point just make your own smart TV using a commercial display
I’ll answer your question right now without beating around this bush, what you are asking is simply impossible. In fact I will take it one step further, not only is your request not possible using your preexisting TV there is no such consumer TV that you can purchase as of now that will just run Linux. Furthermore there is not a single Linux distro as of now designed to run internally inside of TVs (there are distros for set top boxes, not TVs).
Is it possible in theory?
Possibly but until a single confirmed case of a successful Linux installation on a TV is found I will consider this impossible (furthermore the chances that the successful Linux installation occurs on your specific model of TV is slim).
Yeah, fascists don’t like it when you tear down your propoganda posters. I have since made a promise to myself to never allow fascists to hold that much power over me again.
My point is its absolutely absurd to yell that AOSP is dead because GOOGLE SPECIFIC files such as device trees and firmware files (that maybe one or two other oems regularly distribute) and just jump ship to a platform arguably over a decade behind. Are there concerns? Yes, but those concerns are absolutely nowhere near close to justify the absolute mess the mobile linux space is in. It would be like if amazon packages starting arriving a day late and we all switched to aliexpress.
Yeah mobile linux cant afford splintering, if its to have any chance everyone needs to back PostmarketOS because quite frankly its the only mobile Linux distro with a future