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  • I think you misunderstood the meme and worded your first comment poorly.

    The meme is saying that the equivalent of guacamole on the island of Ireland is mashed potatoes. It doesn’t say the Irish invented it, it doesn’t really focus on national identity. I mean on Ireland is the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Different nations and the meme just says Irish.

    And instead of saying “there is no such thing as Irish”, you said “potatoes aren’t Irish enough because they came too late”, implying that there is such a thing as Irish culture but potatoes don’t qualify.

    If you read correctly it’s my interlocutor that made the point about the British repression forcing the potato on the Irish, and the argument of that being the National dish is even more silly to me.

    The interlocutor was me and all I’m saying is that the British Empire forced potatoes on the Irish and because of that, potatoes were so wide spread in Ireland that they quality as a national dish. How is that silly? I still don’t follow. Imagine having to grow potatoes and then trying out a variety of dishes. Silly.


  • the Aztecs was almost completely destroyed.

    How is this even relevant? I really don’t see any connection.

    The idea that the portal became Irish because it was forced upon them by the English is a bit ironic, with a whiff of Stockholm syndrome, at least for me.

    How so? The potato was force upon them, not mashed potatoes specifically. It would be totally understandable if the Irish would choose to get rid of everything that has anything to do with the British. This happens to a degree that the language Gaelic is revitalized. But it’s not up to me as a foreigner who never set foot on Ireland to expect that from them. Potato is an important food item all over Europe. “The idea that the portal became Irish because it was forced upon them by the English” is just an observation. You can’t dispute observations because they are “a bit ironic”. That’s not how history works.

    The appropriation of certain dishes as national is, in itself, a rather novel idea.

    How is this even an argument for your side? Nations are a social construct developed long after Columbus. By saying, anything that came after the 1400s can’t be part of a national identity, you are implying that nations exist since for ever.














  • lugal@sopuli.xyztomemes@lemmy.worldJackpot
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    I grew up with Voyager and at some point, I systematically rewatches TNG, DS9 and VOY (and TOS, this was before DIS). I watched the episodes in order of release which adds to the experience because there are reoccuring characters and narratives showing up in different shows. The shows are very episodic (except for parts of DS9) so you can watch them in any order, but if you watch them all anyways, be aware of the overlap both in release date and in the story




  • I looked it up so why not share it: the two meanings of school have nothing to do with each other. While the learning thing comes from Latin and untimely from Greek, a school of fish is a Dutch borrowing with Germanic roots.

    etymology of place of instruction

    Middle English scole, from Old English scol, “institution for instruction,” from Latin schola “meeting place for teachers and students, place of instruction;” also “learned conversation, debate; lecture; disciples of a teacher, body of followers, sect,” also in the older Greek sense of “intermission of work, leisure for learning.”

    This is from Greek skholē “spare time, leisure, rest, ease; idleness; that in which leisure is employed; learned discussion;” also “a place for lectures, school;” originally “a holding back, a keeping clear,” from skhein “to get” (from PIE root *segh- “to hold”) + -olē by analogy with bolē “a throw,” stolē “outfit,” etc.

    Etymology of large number of fish

    late 14c., scole, from Middle Dutch schole (Dutch school) “group of fish or other animals” (porpoises, whales), which is cognate with Old English scolu “band, troop, crowd of fish,” both from West Germanic *skulo- (source also of Old Saxon scola “troop, multitude,” West Frisian skoal), perhaps with a literal sense of “division,” and from PIE root *skel- (1) “to cut.” Compare shoal (n.2)), the assibilated form of the same word. For possible sense development, compare section (n.) from Latin secare “to cut.”