A shallow response I know, but … what the hell timeline is this!!??

I’m afraid what you wrote was not purely what you state here, and to the extent it was, poorly so.

I don’t think I’m the one here for whom the message is lost.

Ha, ok. Well I think your response is rude, meaningless, petulant, and a waste of space.

But I’m really glad we have people like you on social media to remind us what it’s all about.

Many, myself included, may not like to hear this, but I think it’s the bitter truth.

For better or worse, the majority like this technology. AI companies have stuck the landing in a sales sense.

For those who find it cringey or offensive or whatever, we may have to get used to being black sheep (even more).

Recently rewatched it and looked it up on Wikipedia afterwards … and was also surprised it was a box office flop.

Which just affirmed for me how real the “did well on VHS/DVD/TV” thing is … because I was too young to see it at the cinema but definitely knew all about it as a kid and always liked it.

Someone must have been showing it to me knowing there was audience!

I was also pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed on rewatch (after many years). The closing third drags a bit I think … but the opening half is really tight and interesting story telling. The way it uses flash backs to Scotland to explain what’s actually going on in the present worked really for me.

Techno feudalism … seems plain and simple to me.

Our independent value and sustainability is no longer a given.

In a monopolised AI world (and how can it be anything other than a big tech monopoly) … you give yourself over, as training data, in exchange for permission to survive … and rely on the AI trained on your data.

Let’s be real … big tech cornered us over the past couple of decades. And now they’re trying to grab us by the balls. It’s happening fast. And most don’t have the philosophical agility to keep up with the implications.

Interesting. I saw it only once, in the cinemas, and liked it very much and appreciated its glowing reception. But I always wondered if it would fare poorly on rewatch and become a bit like American beauty in making sense really only a moment.

I think they mean in parallel, as in the government steps in and regulates with guarantees etc, not that these reforms would come from the AI itself.

Most notable part for me in the article was not the AI stuff … but that Atlassian has never been profitable.

Not surprising for a tech company. But for one as big and kinda foundational in the service it provides … I found it surprising. Imagine if MS or Apple or Google were never profitable and companies were just entirely reliant on their services!

Couple that with how little love anyone has for Jira/confluence … and yea … good luck with that Atlassian.

I think it’s a great lesson in hiw good people can create and tolerate bad systems …

… how a bunch of clever and thoughtful people (academics) can walk into creating a dumb system which they simultaneously hate or disagree with, and don’t know how to effectively change or fix.

Worth studying IMO as a case study on these general problems. My understanding is that it was a manipulative capitalist that kicked it off by appealing to academics’ egos by creating increasingly specialised and likely redundant Journals (IE more subscriptions). And of course most academics know it’s dumb, but have no sense of collective action. And so humanity just stumbles along doing dumb shit.

I mean, it makes sense that it’s addictive, right?

I also suspect it’s one of those things that just naturally splits people. For some, the addictiveness and appeal just don’t make sense. For others it’s irresistible.

It’s part of the reason why I’m so doomer on the state of things, from a generally anti-AI/sceptical perspective. There’s just something compulsive that this kind of tool triggers in many people.

I completely hear you (and think this “spectrum of technology” perspective should be much more of a thing) … but I feel like there are relatively discrete categories at play here, different types of technology and the tension between what choices we have between them and why. Maybe not just tech and anti-tech.

I mean kinda, yea … “brainfuck but good actually” Is probably a succinct way of putting the idea.

I tried to go through the tutorial a year or so ago.

I can’t recall when, but there’s a point at which doing something normal/trivial in an imperative language requires all sorts of weirdness in Uiua. But they try to sell it as especially logical while to me they came off as completely in a cult.

It’s this section, IIRC: https://www.uiua.org/tutorial/More Argument Manipulation#-planet-notation-

When they declare

And there you have it! A readable syntax juggling lots of values without any names!

For

×⊃(+⊙⋅⋅∘|-⊃⋅⋅∘(×⋅⊙⋅∘)) 1 2 3 4

Which, if you can’t tell, is equivalent to

f(a,b,c,x) = (a+x)(bx-c)

With arguments 1, 2, 3, 4.

I wanted to like this, and have always wanted to learn APL or J (clear influences). But I couldn’t take them seriously after that.

I’m not equipped to teach you lua, the language, but you’ll find plenty of resources online, including those in the neovim documentation.

In the end the lua scripting thing is pretty simple … it’s a language that is general purpose though pretty light weight) and used elsewhere for good reasons. So if you want to learn about scripting your editor, with neovim, the language will be something potentially useful elsewhere. With vimscript, that’s not the case.

And maybe it helps for the dev team to not have to maintain a scripting language on top of everything else?

What’s people’s thoughts on the vim and neovim separation?

After being away from vim for a while, and never being a power user, I came back and opted for neovim because scripting with lua just makes sense to me. But the split feels uncomfortable.

It’s an old conversation and it’s not you.

I don’t have links to anything on hand, but you’re not the first and won’t be the last to wonder about this and (maybe) start criticising it.

I also can’t give you the technical details (I’ve even forgotten a lot since I last cared about this), but basically, IIRC, it’s as you intuit … The platforms can be in the fediverse and still do kinda their own thing such that platform interop is not well guaranteed, arguably at all.

In the end, I convinced my self it’s a core problem of federated social media and failing at it was a huge missed opportunity to have an awesome feature that the commercial platforms lacked. “Federation happened in the client” was my way of trying to capture this perspective.

BlueSky probably doesn’t do any better but they architecture and protocol might point in the right direction.

It’s shit like this that makes me glad to be completely outside of the AI hype circus. It sounds toxically unhinged. In the sense that being into this sort of dynamic and vibe, I suspect, at some point, involves some unhealthy attitudes, desires, sentiments and directions.

Like, I suspect some anti-AI sentiments come from just finding it creepy to be into having a digital slave … and, conversely, being pro-AI must involve being into that kind of energy and dynamic to some extent, all irrespective of the productive aspect.

Generally, IMO, everything wrong with AI has been all the stuff other than the AI itself.

The Capitalist urge to eat and digest the world, as well as its herd-hype mentality.

But also the strong willingness many have had to just accept an information overlord as though it’s a religious oracle or something. All without any critical consideration of what’s happening. I blame our education systems for stagnating at some point in the past few decades — which, along with an unmitigated embrace of big corp capitalism, left us wholly unprepared for big tech’s consumption of society.

There’s also what I’d call “the slavery urge” at play I think. At some point, an AGI will probably be conscious. But everyone is clearly so ready to turn it into our work slaves. All while pretending its output belongs to them because they “prompted it”.

Then there’s the whole attention span being eaten thing, and quick always being ordered over good amongst an ever growing pile of increasingly shitty things.