Yeah, we’ve replaced “you can build your own kernel and install own grub” with “it’s cloud native”.

Not sure it’s better…

lemme guess… and inject would close it again?

Let’s make 2025 2008 again!

Being able to use a keyboard without looking at it a good thing.

Only thing that makes it “different situation” for smartphone is that they just don’t have the keyboards. (And some of us kinda accepted that…)

I get it, but a gentle reminder, often the best way for society to have an awesome projects is to have a lot of projects.

There’s nothing cloud about it. It’s a bad marketing term.

…you mean, what if … what if the cool Linux/FOSS hackers are somehow also very bad at marketing?

Bazzite was assembled, by some very cool people

but then again, why these cool people keep saying things like “cloud native”… is a mystery to me…

Funny enough I had not fully realized this about Steam Deck myself, because I kind of made a special exception for Steam Deck to prevent myself from nerding out on it too much: this is strictly for fun!

(That’s why I only changed hostname, replaced the default terminal emulator and set up Syncthing. Oh, and SSH access but that’s it, I promise! :D)

I suspect the “cloud native” marketing term in this context just means you can run the same image file in a vm, vps, bare metal, whatever.

…yeah that’s what makes it suspicious. Alone it can be a good thing but why rush to mention it for a fricking gaming/home distro? As if running gaming/home distro anywhere else than as close to the hardware as possible was somehow inherently normal or even good.

(The idea of cleanly separating “user user space” does sound inherently good, if achievable…)

Again, who are they marketing to?

Thanks, I think I’ve already heard about this architecture, although I don’t think there was any standard term for that. Maybe it’s time to try one of these out one day…

It’s still weird that hey would sprinkle “cloud native” all over the place just to confuse people like me. (But then again, maybe I’ve been living under a rock…)

Thanks for sharing, I haven’t read it yet but it looks like there’s lot of interesting stuff there. (Definitely not a “14 min read” 😉 )

I moved from (10+ years) Vim to Neovim about last year an I actually used Kickstart, but honestly, while it’s nice to give you a start (especially from people coming from other, more “rich-by-default” editors), there definitely is the problem that I don’t get to really understand how my own config works. …which makes it harder to debug problems but also to ask for help.

And problems will inevitably come, especially with such an active ecosystem of plugins.

I’ve been planning to do a deeper dive into my config–perhaps even rewrite parts of it—so your article is going to be a good source.

nit: you mean yaml.safe_load().

Some people see “free stuff”, and assume that it’s now open season on wasting OP’s time.

It’s a good way to kill any enthusiasm. Imagine your kid made a spaghetti portrait as a gift for you and instead of just accepting it you asked, “but what exactly did you do differently from all kids on the block?”

Why? Why ask for this from the creator?

If someone can create new software and offer it for free, they should not also be expected to also create a comprehensive analysis of what other people did and list of differences.

Just take it or leave it, it’s that simple. No need to act as if you’re trying to waste some door-to-door salesman’s time.

Edit: I expected some downvotes but not that many.

To my defense, the question in this thread is “you could elaborate what exactly you did different than all the others”. Look, I’m not a native English speaker either but I feel we could agree that is still pretty far away from simply being curious about design choices or “what led you to create this” sort of exploratory question.

I might have overreacted, though, so sorry for that.

my go_to NamingCovention: ANYTHING but camel-case 🤮

Well, I was thinking of a quote that was much more similar to what I wrote (and it’s not in the video you linked).

I had such a trouble finding it that I’m starting to feel like it might be one of those “quotes” where the credited author never really said that, but I haven’t completely given up :D

Here’s one closer to what I paraphrased (but not quite it)–quoting an article from cio.com

While Linux pretty much dominates almost every walk of our lives, even on the consumer devices like smartphones and smart TVs, it has not had the same success on the desktop. What does Torvalds think about it? Is Linux a failure on the desktop? Not really. “The desktop hasn’t really taken over the world like Linux has in many other areas, but just looking at my own use, my desktop looks so much better than I ever could have imagined. Despite the fact that I’m known for sometimes not being very polite to some of the desktop UI people, because I want to get my work done. Pretty is not my primary thing. I actually am very happy with the Linux desktop, and I started the project for my own needs, and my needs are very much fulfilled. That’s why, to me, it’s not a failure. I would obviously love for Linux to take over that world too, but it turns out it’s a really hard area to enter. I’m still working on it. It’s been 25 years. I can do this for another 25. I’ll wear them down.”

First of all. This is not another “how do I exit vim?” shitpost.

Oh, I see, so just a clickbait! 👎

Funny how he made it basically for his desktop computer.

33 years later, and Linux is dominating in every part of the OS world except … the desktop.

(I’m paraphrasing his quote – he said something like this years ago, can’t find it, though.)

(Edit: to be more fair with quotes, it might be the case that I “hallucinated” the quote. he might not have said that, or he might have just said part of it and other part would be someone else’s comment. This cio.com article is probably a better source on his position )

Yeah. And I like how even from the message it shows that it’s been already well recognized by then.

If I recall correctly from some RMS’ talks I’ve seen many years ago, they’ve been working on it for years before, it’s just the kernel that was missing. As I see it, GNU and Linux was the breakthrough for FLOSS, since at that time you would still have to use a proprietary kernel. (Well, there’s GNU Hurd, but I’m not sure if it existed at that time, and even if it did, it was not ready.)

I can’t verify it now or any time soon, but you might be right.

Thanks for the pointer!