I’ll keep an eye out, but yeah looks like I shouldn’t get in line quite yet

If they had made an event Tacoma I would have bought that instantly

This is a common argument, but the vast majority of people at home do not carry gravel or sand on a weekly basis. What they need is a rental truck for those items. The cost of 100k is ludicrous. Comparing to a rental truck you would need to be carrying raw material like that on average 2x a week to even break even with the payments.

What I wanted was a nice little ranger style truck - 2 seater, can pick up some lumber, decent sized bed, for in my garage. What they made was a giant crew cab monstrosity that takes up 2 parking spaces and costs 2x what I would have spent.

Car companies keep trying to tell us customers what we want then are surprised when we don’t buy.

Another on the list for “no marketers, I refuse to get hyped about anything when your company is probably just going to kill the project”

I picked up a few today from smaller online stores before they realized. Will have to keep the servers running somehow

Just to redirect, you mention Luke, who had no backstory before Episode 4 (and really none anyway).

If R1 is a trope at all it’s a heist movie. So let’s compare it to something similar, like Ocean’s 11. Of the 11, we know the backstory of 1-2 of the members there. Everyone else makes the ensemble who then build together a heist, them working together with their skills ultimately make the movie amazing. I don’t know each of their backstory, but it’s regarded as the quintessential heist movie. So I stand by my argument, you don’t need everyone to have a fully fleshed out character arc just to have a good movie.

Even then many of the characters do show up in prequels and other series. Andor got his own series because people wanted to know more. So, I don’t think that’s the argument you think it is.

Then finally,

The movie is pretty transparently just Disney pandering to the adults that grew up with Star Wars and wanted to feel like they could still enjoy it through more adult media.

I was born after the originally trilogy. So, swing and a miss there.

And also

Andor does what Rogue One was trying to do much better, and it’s telling that by doing so it barely feels like Star Wars any more.

• Andor was 20 hours long compared to 2.5 hours, not exactly comparable if your main metric is “how fleshed out are backstories”
• I go back to what I said in my first reply to you: " I just wonder if you don’t like Star wars". Which honestly do you? It’s okay if you don’t but if your number one thing about Andor was literally “it barely feels like Star Wars any more” then maybe it’s time to admit you just don’t like Star Wars, and let us who do just enjoy it over here.

Hi Poochie, you look like you have something to say!

And then they made him a weird ladies man that didn’t fit his character all. He was the poochie of parks and rec, and he wasn’t even added later

When I worked at Best buy over 10 years ago they had the exact same propaganda. You know instead of union dues you could buy an Xbox! (From us no less!)

…okay I added that last bit but it was implied

Same, if I’m spending my time I need more than the predictable super hero plot, I want something with character and heart. It’s hard to find but it is out there.

For theaters there are smaller indie ones that do play big titles. Search out your local area to find what may be around you. Those are the ones worth giving your money to. I just won’t go to AMC or Cinemark anymore on my own because of how low quality it is

Some would call it “collusion”

2 people where at least one looks like a specific person who was not trained in the original model. As soon as you add something like a Lora into the mix it will try to make everyone like that person.

I disagree, these aren’t supposed to be major characters that have big backstories, these are just people in the universe. Fleeting characters who for a brief moment had massive impacts on the galaxy. That’s the point, that these people who are seemingly unimportant have one big impact by coming together for this one moment. Again these aren’t superheroes, they aren’t big characters that have big names like Skywalker or Palpatine, these are just people in the galaxy.

I think that’s a question for you. Why do they need a backstory in your mind to make them “interesting”? I see people with this decision thrust on them, and the very fact that we don’t know them but they have such a pivotal effect on the galaxy is why it stands out to me.

Honestly even stupider waste of money.

Not only a stupider app, but shouldn’t Sora/OpenAI be paying Disney then?

Episode 4 was also quite literally a hero movie though, R1 was about the actual soldiers in the trenches. While I love the original, it’s not comparable. You’re dealing with Jedi who have powers and the heads of the rebellion. R1, and Andor while touching on that are much more in the trenches, getting to know the every man/woman. Maybe that’s what is missing from your critique, that these aren’t meant to be power-weilding characters, not everyone needs to save the day.

While I love the original - it’s an action movie. The heroes are large, there are above-human powers, it’s larger than life. R1 is a more realistic movie about the actual people fighting in the trenches. You catch glimpses of the decision makers, but the movie follows some pretty standard soldiers who are pulled into a decision they have to make, and rise to become realistic heroes.

If you find that boring then, well I honestly feel sorry because I found it amazing. Not every story needs to have superheroes and overly charismatic guys and princesses. Sometimes even the “boring” soldiers trying to survive and do their job have a story to tell.

It takes place over 4 days what character development are you hoping for? It’s a setup for Episode 4, it’s about the sacrifice they make. To me it’s the connection they make over such a short amount of time barely getting to know each other, and then sacrificing themselves for almost total strangers for a better cause. (It’s also why I strongly disagree with the Andor/Jyn romance. It wasn’t a romance, they didn’t need to shoehorn in a romance story. They were simply connecting as two humans in their last moments) If you only saw “dark” in that then I think you missed the emotional hits.

Also insulting people who do like it while assuming their taste in film says that we should mostly disregard your opinion anyway.

Rogue one has some of the best drama, acting, and emotion since the original trilogy. If you didn’t like rogue one honestly I just wonder if you don’t like Star wars. Sequels I get not liking, a lot was wrong there, prequels too a lot wrong, but rogue one was top filmmaking in my book.

Ah another billion, that will do it!

Seriously, sora is impressive for what it does, 10 second text to speech models. You cannot make movies with text to speech. You will never get a consistent face, expression, anything. By definition they are unpredictable.

So you train some Loras to try to get a consistent face, but then the model only can make that face. So you can’t have 2 people in the video.

So you get into advanced sectioning of frames and you generate then you replace person A with this face and person B with that face.

And then we haven’t even gotten into backgrounds, consistent sets, or anything.

And they want to make a whole damn movie with it.

At this stage, it’s literally easier to learn real film editing than it is to prompt engineer 1 minute of continuous footage.

1 billion ain’t enough mouse.

Fair. I guess “Why” meaning Why would they need to be in that movie when it takes place 25 years before, well before either were born. Of course the why though is Money