Serious question for anyone who actually uses Bun:

Why are you using Bun instead of Deno or Node?

If you would have asked me 10 years ago, what were the biggest problems with JS as a whole, I would have stated:

1. Poor type safety

2. No standard library which leads people into dependency hell

3. Poor security (installing a project should not even allow the possibility of key stealing or ransomware)

4. No runtime ergonomic immutable data structures with fast equality checks (looked like it was going to be resolved with the Records and Tuples proposal, but it was withdrawn and discussions are continuing in the composites proposal)

Today I consider point 1 mostly resolved and point 4 a problem for TC39 and engine implementers, and not resolvable by runtimes themselves.

That leaves us with problems 2 and 3.

I see Node having poor solutions for 2 and 3.

I see Bun having poor solutions for 2 and 3.

I see Deno having great solutions for 2 and 3.

As far as I can tell, people have chosen Bun for either hype or speed reasons.

Hype doesn’t seem like an important reason to choose Bun since it’s always fleeting and there’s enough investment in the industry to keep each runtime going for a long time.

I do see speed being a moderate issue with JS, but that’s mainly due to:

• dependency install times which should be a one time cost, and which can be reduced anyway by using a standard library

• slow framework slop, which isn’t really a runtime issue.

So I’m not sure speed fits as a reason for choosing Bun.

I’m not sure what the other reasons are, but I’m genuinely curious.

If you’re using Bun in projects today, why have you chosen bun?

Bruh, deno’s great!

It’s mainly an issue with old drivers and not the latest software.

You can try turn it on in each browser’s settings to see if it works. But it’s not a major issue if it doesn’t.

A framework alternative like novacustom would be better

Personally I think it’s more of a fuckup and PR misstep rather than endorsing any particular world-view.

Nah,

If they admitted they hadn’t done their research, apologised for the matter and promised to be more careful in the future, it would have blown over in a day and their community would have retained their respect for them and it would have been looked back as a brief fuckup / pr misstep.

Instead they went into detail about how one of the two controversial parties has changed and said nothing about the other party, except to say they wanted a big tent (which is a massive “dogwhistle” for we allow the intolerant into our space and will let them be intolerant to the detriment of all others).

When asked for clarification and given the chance to explain what they really wanted, they went silent and haven’t responded since.

That silence speaks volumes.

If it were me, I’d go novacustom. They’re framework without the nazi shit.

Or

… you could just buy from another company like framework but without the nazi shit.

Like: https://novacustom.com/

Configure what laptop you want and buy it.

If any random part breaks, you can buy a replacement and switch it out.

I’m glad this is picking up more steam.

Next up the triptych proposals: https://alexanderpetros.com/triptych/

Did anyone else know this existed?

What is wrong with Mozilla’s management?

Why would you need to go to a store to download apps?