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  • I think you’re misunderstanding the incompleteness theorems.

    Gödel’s incompleteness theorems also apply to universe and consciousness

    Sure, if you assume the universe can be described by a computable formal system. Godel’s theorems apply only to computable formal systems.

    To briefly summarize Gödel’s incompleteness theorems, it states that a formal system cannot describe everything.

    That’s a gross oversimplification. It really says that (1) there are true statements about formal system S which cannot be proven within S and (2) S cannot prove its own consistency.

    This means that a Turing Machine will never be able to simulate our universe or replicate consciousness, and thus to replicate a human brain.

    You’ve previously assumed that the universe is a computable formal system. But all computable formal systems can be modeled as a Turing machine. This is a contradiction.

    However, it could be feasible with Quantum Computer that are not based on formal system.

    How would a quantum computer even work if it weren’t described by a formal system?