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    It was my understanding that the existence of police stations in foreign countries is not debated, they have them. The allegation that they are used for repressive purposes beyond their stated aim of providing administrative services to citizens living abroad is what is controversial. It really seems like, when you cut all the baggage away, all we have is testimonials from expats claiming harassment and assurances from the MFA that it never happened, so I struggle to land firmly on one side of belief considering both parties have historically been loose with the truth.

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      It was my understanding that the existence of police stations in foreign countries is not debated, they have them.

      No, that’s not a thing. What country allows another country to have police stations on its sovereign territory, where it has sovereign jurisdiction and the foreign country has none? That makes no sense.

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          It is widely known and actually mentioned in the article you linked above

          The things mentioned in the article aren’t police stations, Chinese or otherwise, nor are they secret.

          You also read the Chinese government’s explanation for their existence if you search the MFA website for 海外警务服务中心

          I can’t read Chinese, can you?

          Foreign Ministry Spokesperson’s Remarks on “Overseas Chinese Service Centers in the Netherlands”

          AFP: The Dutch government said yesterday that no permission was sought from the Netherlands for the Chinese “police service stations”, and it ordered China to close the “police service stations” in the Netherlands. What is China’s comment?

          Zhao Lijian: I would refer you to competent authorities for more detailed information. Let me say that according to our understanding, the sites you mentioned are not “police stations” or “police service centers”. They assist overseas Chinese nationals who need help in accessing the online service platform to get their driving licenses renewed and receive physical check-ups for that purpose. The venues are provided by local overseas Chinese communities who would like to be helpful, and the people who work on those sites are all volunteers who come from these communities. They are not police personnel from China. There is no need to make people nervous about this.

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        It is widely known and actually mentioned in the article you linked above. You also read the Chinese government’s explanation for their existence if you search the MFA website for 海外警务服务中心