• prettybunnys@piefed.social
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    15 hours ago

    It’s … wild because this is part of the roots of the Jewish people being chased from their lands.

    In a world where folks accepted other peoples gods but revered their own … the monotheistic Abrahamic religions fucked all that up.

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      9 hours ago

      Have you ever heard of this social experiment that was done a long time ago.?

      A teacher in 1968, following days after MLK was murdered, decided to teach kids about racism. It ended up becoming a famous experiment about how people who are discriminated against will often do the same back to others. And that we are all equally capable of being taught to discriminate even when we ourselves have faced discrimination and know what it’s like.

      Here is the premise. (All kids were white, I believe)

      The teacher told the students that blue eye color students were smarter than brown eye color students because the pigment in brown eyes was related to lower intelligence.

      Here is the rest copied from Wikipedia

      "Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[10]

      The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. To reflect on the experience, she asked the children to write down what they had learned.[6]"

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

      Here is an in-depth article by PBS on it. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/introduction-2/

      Here is a documentary about it , also made by PBS. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCLm_LwpE

      It’s a fascinating experiment into human behavior and self reflection. And how superiority complex changes performance and personality.

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      14 hours ago

      A bunch of Europeans calling themselves Israelites has about as much weight as a bunch of Europeans calling themselves Aryans.

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      13 hours ago

      The problem with believing in gods is that you think you are right. That makes other people wrong. And so it begins…

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        8 hours ago

        That is one way to see it, but it’s also possible to have a more pluralistic view. Like in India which has a long tradition of many religions co-existing with respect.

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          Boy, you should really look into how they’re handing their Muslim population. Though, yes, much like the Israel situation, the Brits really fucked that region up.

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          You can respect someone and still think they’re wrong. Just like I respect you right now.

          But if you truly believe in your religion, then you must believe that other religions aren’t right.

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            3 hours ago

            Not necessarily. If I wear rose-tinted glasses while yours are tinted green, I may still believe that the worlds we see are lit by the same light.

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              If you believe that, then you believe you do not actually know the truth. But only an interpretation of what might be true.

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            believing you are right is requisite to belief. acknowledgement that you might be wrong, in the existence of doubt, that’s maturity but it does not preclude the belief that you are right.

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              I think you’ve just talked yourself into a circle. You can’t both believe something and doubt it. Doubt is the opposite of belief.

              What you’re talking about is possibly belief in belief. That’s the belief that you should believe, or belief that you do believe. That is not the same as actual belief.

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      You say that but there’s no real evidence of a mass migration, suggesting the chase never happened. But, considering the Israelites’ goal back then was to annihilate the natives of (what was until 1948) Palestine and take their land because someone said Yahweh said they should… If they were banished they probably had it coming. Just like modern day Israelites have it coming.