• Gap@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The previous point still stands though. If Russia is rewarded for being the agressor then they will learn that its the correct path to take. Which is less than ideal

    It seems like you ignore points you agree with. This will result in a consensus never being reached, instead having an infinite argument. By adding a “you’re right about x but I still disagree with y” into your messaging it’ll help create an understanding

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      If Russia is rewarded for being the agressor then they will learn that its the correct path to take

      Both Russia and Ukraine lost a generation of young people and Russia was basically kicked out of having any economic relations with Europe. That’s hardly a reward. Nobody outside of the most bloodthirsty US politicians are going to look back at this and say “Yeah that was a great idea”, considering the lines are basically where they were 3 years ago, yet hundreds of thousands more are dead and millions displaced and if there was peace tomorrow, the region is never going to be safe again within our lifetimes, on either side of the border.

      It seems like you ignore points you agree with. This will result in a consensus never being reached, instead having an infinite argument. By adding a “you’re right about x but I still disagree with y” into your messaging it’ll help create an understanding

      I’ll keep this in mind.

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        22 hours ago

        Both Russia and Ukraine lost a generation of young people and Russia was basically kicked out of having any economic relations with Europe.

        Russia got it’s shit kicked in the Chechnya the first time, and then decided to do the exact same thing again, but worse, a few years later.

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        I actually don’t know enough about the state of the war or the interests of the ruling class of Russia to argue my point any further.

        Your arguments on the repercussions have made me agree with your points about it not being rewarding for Russia at the current state of events. Nevertheless I wish to bring up the point that the interests of the ruling class may not be aligned with the interests of Russia as a whole.

        But as I said at the start I know too little about that topic to reach any form of conclusion about that, so I’ll leave it at a hypothetical possibility.

        Cheers!