California passed a law forcing operating systems to track your age and report it to every app you use. It takes effect January 1, 2027, and applies to EVERY operating system. Colorado, Illinois, L...
You’re kind of not really engaging with me in good faith, but I’ll bite anyways.
The fact you didn’t kill yourself, frankly, proves nothing. Not because you’re a rando, but because there’s no control. That’s why I said you need to prove that social media is reducing teen suicides, compared to the time before social media.
Secondly, it’s debatable whether platforms like SO, forums and Reddit are actually social media, or merely link aggregators and forums. Those sites provide their content for logged-out users anyways, so children can still view them regardless.
You’re kind of not really engaging with me in good faith, but I’ll bite anyways.
My tone, which is baseline pedantic and dry (just see my past comments on Lemmy and you’ll notice that), partly due to the fact that I’m a ESL (English as a Second Language because I was born a Portuguese-speaking Brazilian) neurodivergent person, may sound further “aggressive” precisely because this kind of ongoing theme (age checking laws, childhood, etc) deeply touches me, but in no way I mean to be aggressive or acting in “bad faith”, it’s just my somber, dry tone speaking. I’m neither intending to attack you nor your person, just trying to question your arguments.
proves nothing. Not because you’re a rando, but because there’s no control. That’s why I said you need to prove that social media is reducing teen suicides, compared to the time before social media.
This kind of study, scientifically speaking, is hard to achieve when there’s no such thing as a “control group”. It also likely varies across countries, cultures and demographics.
To make matters worse, mental health awareness is quite a recent achievement. Not too long ago, mental health issues were hardly diagnosed. While proper diagnosis still struggles nowadays (with lots of under-diagnosed cases due to systemic issues from lack of healthcare access to prejudice), there seems to be no proper way to compare depression and suicidality before and after the advent of social networks.
At least to me, it seems like a thing that can’t be proved easily, not withi the full scientific rigor required by a peer-reviewable, double-blind, scientific proof.
Those sites provide their content for logged-out users anyways, so children can still view them regardless.
Viewing is being a guest and, at least in my case, I wasn’t just a guest: I actively participated, I actively talked to people, this is how I got to expose my questions and, hopefully, getting answers, because the existing exchanges aren’t always enough to cover a specific question one may have.
Learning isn’t simply about receiving knowledge without having a voice to talk back. Although much of my formation was self-taught, I still needed people to answer me things. Yeah, there are courses, but courses can be unaffordable for some demographics, because they cost real money, and this is where Internet used to thrive the most: the social connectivity offered for free by platforms and websites such as Orkut, BBSes, mailing lists, these things allowed for people to get what they couldn’t afford otherwise.
You’re kind of not really engaging with me in good faith, but I’ll bite anyways.
The fact you didn’t kill yourself, frankly, proves nothing. Not because you’re a rando, but because there’s no control. That’s why I said you need to prove that social media is reducing teen suicides, compared to the time before social media.
Secondly, it’s debatable whether platforms like SO, forums and Reddit are actually social media, or merely link aggregators and forums. Those sites provide their content for logged-out users anyways, so children can still view them regardless.
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My tone, which is baseline pedantic and dry (just see my past comments on Lemmy and you’ll notice that), partly due to the fact that I’m a ESL (English as a Second Language because I was born a Portuguese-speaking Brazilian) neurodivergent person, may sound further “aggressive” precisely because this kind of ongoing theme (age checking laws, childhood, etc) deeply touches me, but in no way I mean to be aggressive or acting in “bad faith”, it’s just my somber, dry tone speaking. I’m neither intending to attack you nor your person, just trying to question your arguments.
This kind of study, scientifically speaking, is hard to achieve when there’s no such thing as a “control group”. It also likely varies across countries, cultures and demographics.
To make matters worse, mental health awareness is quite a recent achievement. Not too long ago, mental health issues were hardly diagnosed. While proper diagnosis still struggles nowadays (with lots of under-diagnosed cases due to systemic issues from lack of healthcare access to prejudice), there seems to be no proper way to compare depression and suicidality before and after the advent of social networks.
At least to me, it seems like a thing that can’t be proved easily, not withi the full scientific rigor required by a peer-reviewable, double-blind, scientific proof.
Viewing is being a guest and, at least in my case, I wasn’t just a guest: I actively participated, I actively talked to people, this is how I got to expose my questions and, hopefully, getting answers, because the existing exchanges aren’t always enough to cover a specific question one may have.
Learning isn’t simply about receiving knowledge without having a voice to talk back. Although much of my formation was self-taught, I still needed people to answer me things. Yeah, there are courses, but courses can be unaffordable for some demographics, because they cost real money, and this is where Internet used to thrive the most: the social connectivity offered for free by platforms and websites such as Orkut, BBSes, mailing lists, these things allowed for people to get what they couldn’t afford otherwise.