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    21 hours ago

    Queen Victoria killed like 80 million of her own subjects, literally in the name of capitalism, but nobody ever talks about that. It’s all “Stalin and Mao!” This is deeply misogynistic, erasing the fact that a powerful woman did it better first.

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      Who here was glorifying Queen Victoria? Not me.

      But a dozen of you are tripping over yourself to defend Stalin. For no reason. Seems you’re the misogynists here. You love Stalin despite him falling short of a woman’s (who you hate) accomplishments.

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        Being born into royalty and, by pure happenstance, becoming empress of the largest empire in history at its zenith is no accomplishment.

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          So you’re changing your own argument, now? It’s more impressive that Stalin worked his way up the ladder before killing all those people? That’s what you admire?

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            You’re very bad at this, and you’re convincing no one. We know what Stalin actually did & didn’t do, because we’ve actually investigated. We grew up under exactly the same propaganda as you, but all you’ve got is that unexamined propaganda, which we’ve examined and found wanting.

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              It’s very telling that _every single one of you _ have jumped in with a whataboutism as if that’s remotely a valid argument. It’s not even on topic. That’s the childish response. At no point had I mentioned communism at all, but that’s what your minds jump to. You can’t even admit that: tyrant bad. Being a tyrant communist doesn’t make the tyranny part not exist.

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                16 hours ago

                He wasn’t a tyrant. He was elected, several times.

                CIA COMMENTS ON THE CHANGE IN SOVIET LEADERSHIP

                Even in Stalin’s time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain.

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                    Hitler was only appointed as Chancellor because Hindenburg and his camarilla urgently needed a broad popular basis for their […] politics. In this respect, the popular support which the [Fascists] enjoyed made the appointment of Hitler as head of government possible. Even though a majority of Germans had voted against Hitler in the Reichstag elections of 6 November 1932, he was still the leader of the strongest political party.

                    (Source.)

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                    7 hours ago

                    Why do you keep showing us your ass, you confidently incorrect boor?

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                    9 hours ago

                    Western shitlibs: the perfectly obnoxious combination of smugly confident and incorrect