• justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    Forced attendance is just a stupid concept… If you pass the exam, who cares where and how you learned it? Happy that I never had that.

    • imadethis@fedinsfw.app
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      2 hours ago

      Forced attendance is a combination of oversight, because it proves the university is trying to accomplish the ‘whole teaching thing,’ and because it’s pretty evident that students who attend more classes do better. I’m sure all of us on lemmy can say they had classes (or just areas of life) where they completely taught themselves, but in general even a mediocre professor makes the self-reading/studying portion fit better into your head.

      The oversight thing can go take a hike, but I’m okay with raising the outcome for a bunch of students by requiring attendance.

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        1 hour ago

        The other thing is, there are maybe 10% max of students who understand it on their own and it hurts forcing them to come to class (it’s department policy in my case). 80% don’t do shit but most are exam smart enough to pass. I wouldn’t give those any responsibility for any serious project at this point, but I don’t know how they develop after graduation. 10% are just lost.

        Now try to design a course that accommodates all of them appropriately.

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        4 hours ago

        Yes, in the same way that hospitals are just expensive ways to get a discharge letter.

        Something something metrics and goals.

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        5 hours ago

        That is not the case, exam evaluates learning outcome. If the student satisfies the learning outcome in the end, I don’t care how they did it.

        I am only here to help the student acheive as much learning outcome as they can and in the end, assigning a score that reflect how much they have acheived.

        That is the important part: in the end, it is only a letter, but that letter should reflect real skill. Yet I don’t want student to waste their precious time when they can achieve the required outcome without doing homework and/or attending classes.