There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It’s a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It’s relentless.

Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.

On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.

Y Combinator has a financial stake in numerous surveillance and exploit development companies. Hacker News is a platform they own and the moderators on it have permitted years of vile harassment towards our team which they’d normally remove if others were targeted.

Hacker News mods micromanage it enough to repeatedly ask us not to reuse a bit of text across our comments. Meanwhile, they do nothing about disgusting personal attacks and harassment content consistently being spread in threads about GrapheneOS on their heavily moderated site.

The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they’ll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.

Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.

On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.

Articles about GrapheneOS on most platforms often have comments engaging in baseless personal attacks towards our team, linking to harassment content and making many clearly inaccurate claims about it. We’ve found chat rooms coordinating this including attacks on the X platform.

Privacy projects are more vulnerable to these attacks because the userbase and supporters largely avoid social media and other platforms where it happens. Many people believe what they read on social media if it isn’t countered and it builds echo chambers hostile to GrapheneOS.

Many people think these must be state sponsored attacks. However, our experience is these attacks are primarily orchestrated by companies selling dubious products marketed as private and secure. We did get targeted by state sponsored smear campaigns in France and Spain though.

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    FWIW, I’m a nobody from nowhere, and I love GrapheneOS and have been using it for years. I moved to it by necessity, as I was subjected to a campaign of stalking and harassment that included the compromise of my electronics. I started with a Pixel 3, later switched to a Pixel 6, and now am running it on a Pixel 9. In the past I’ve tinkered with various android roms, and I’ve never had an easier install experience. I love the sandboxing to keep other apps, and Google, from monitoring my activities. The fact that state actors hate it only reinforces my high opinion of it.

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      In the past I’ve tinkered with various android roms, and I’ve never had an easier install experience.

      This aspect of switching to GrapheneOS isn’t called out as much as it should be. After tinkering with alternative Android ROMs for just about my entire time using Android, I am used to struggling my way througn following user-written guides to unlock my device and install things. But installing GrapheneOS was easily the simplest, most staightforward install process I have experienced. I understand that having to take any steps to install something in place of your stock OS will always be a point of friction that makes people resistant to try it, but the GrapheneOS install process is just so simple that anyone who can manage to follow a home cooking recipe should have no problem with it.

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      I don’t know whether this is true, but I often see posts like this from the graphene os team talking about being targeted or others “spreading lies” about them. Just a pattern I’m starting to notice. I’ve also read about some YouTubers who had conflicts with the lead developer of graphene os. Graphene OS also complained about other similar Android derivative privacy OSes slandering them. I don’t know what’s true, but I am just noticing a pattern of graphene OS reps having conflicts with lots of people. The lead of the project stepped away complaining about being targeted. Not saying none of what they say is true. Just noticing it. It’s hard to verify without evidence of these things. However, if you are always saying others are out to get you, it might be believable the first time or two, but eventually people start to wonder and ask for proof.

      I will say, if I had delusional paranoia, I would probably build a privacy OS to protect me from all the people out to get me…

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        Never watched any other videos of his but that Louis Rossmann has a good video about it.

        In general I take all graphene claims with a grain of salt. They definitely slander other OS’s that aren’t even claiming to compete with them.

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        I’ve seen them spreading FUD several times about other platforms (which they call “competitors”) and when I call them out on it (I have the competence) they’re never able to back up their claims but resort to wild statements about how everyone’s out to get them.

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          What do you mean call them out? Are you just in the comments section saying stuff like the above post and being angry they aren’t giving you attention?

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            No, I point out that the FUD they’re spreading regarding other mobile OS’s isn’t true, linking to facts, and ask them why they claim differently.