Even on a karma platform, I didn’t care. I always used to make fun of people on reddit for deleting a post just because it was heavily downvoted. But then… eventually it wasn’t enough for people to dogpile downvotes, they had to start reporting posts they disagreed with. And the mod teams, who had eventually also gone to shit, didn’t delete the posts but instead would ban you from the sub. At that point, deleting your own post because of downvotes seemed entirely reasonable and I even started doing it myself.
It is weird how much importance people put on karma. Even I have to admit it felt good when I’d see my posts and comments upvoted but I never once cared for my aggregated karma.
There’s still a bunch of lemmings invoking her every time the fascist kakistocracy of the US does something awful, in order to dunk on anyone who’s ever criticized the DNC leadership from the left.
Plus she hasn’t ruled out running again in 2028, so if the fascists let that election happen, she and her abominable Khive will probably be depressingly relevant and maddeningly omnipresent again 😮💨
Kamela or Gavin would no doubt be better than the next republican candidate, but I’m not sure they would do many needed changes for the people and most likely use kid gloves on the current regime, not to rock the boat.
And then they will enable the next republican regime to finish the job trump stated.
In my experience, that’s what tends to happen in more traditional forums.
Voting systems are great for threads where the discussions is about problem with an objective solution, but for more subjective topics it just kills discussions.
I recommend anyone that used to be a lot on Reddit, here on Lemmy and/or other forums with karma systems to try out forums without them. Trust me you’ll notice the difference.
Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.
Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.
This has a lot more to do with small self selecting groups to already be on the same page and know each other enough to give each other the benefit of the doubt that they are discussing in other good faith. Not always true, but far more likely simply by being a smaller group
Reddit and other threaded formats allow for easier replies in large groups, which does mean that is less likely and it is more likely to argue with as random user with a significant lack of trust. This lack of trust is also reflected in the voting and behavior related to voting.
Yup you’re right. That last part was more of an addendum for those that consider trying to find new forums.
Obviously, the voting system is only one part of the story. It by itself won’t dictate if a community will be healthy or toxic; other things like the community culture and mods will have a heavier impact. But in my experience, in all the places I’ve been in, the voting system is one of the ingredients that does have an effect on the cake overall.
The benefit I have seen in smaller communities is that it reduces dogpiling and ‘me too!’ redundant comments although at a trade for the negatives you mentioned.
Na, I go full in and make clear that this someone is not alone.
I mean, on a Karma-free platform I don’t have to do anything to conform to the mainstream.
Sometimes it even triggers an honest discussion.
Even on a karma platform, I didn’t care. I always used to make fun of people on reddit for deleting a post just because it was heavily downvoted. But then… eventually it wasn’t enough for people to dogpile downvotes, they had to start reporting posts they disagreed with. And the mod teams, who had eventually also gone to shit, didn’t delete the posts but instead would ban you from the sub. At that point, deleting your own post because of downvotes seemed entirely reasonable and I even started doing it myself.
It is weird how much importance people put on karma. Even I have to admit it felt good when I’d see my posts and comments upvoted but I never once cared for my aggregated karma.
We must maintain homogeneous social cohesion at any cost, I don’t care how many feelings I hurt along the way
So say we all.
I misread this as “Kamala-free platform”
Oh sorry, obviously a typo on my site.
Naturally I meant “Karamell-free platform”.
Gotta take care of your dental health!
Mmmm karamells…
That’s every platform now lmao
If only!
There’s still a bunch of lemmings invoking her every time the fascist kakistocracy of the US does something awful, in order to dunk on anyone who’s ever criticized the DNC leadership from the left.
Plus she hasn’t ruled out running again in 2028, so if the fascists let that election happen, she and her abominable Khive will probably be depressingly relevant and maddeningly omnipresent again 😮💨
Kamela or Gavin would no doubt be better than the next republican candidate, but I’m not sure they would do many needed changes for the people and most likely use kid gloves on the current regime, not to rock the boat.
And then they will enable the next republican regime to finish the job trump stated.
What did I miss?
In my experience, that’s what tends to happen in more traditional forums.
Voting systems are great for threads where the discussions is about problem with an objective solution, but for more subjective topics it just kills discussions.
I recommend anyone that used to be a lot on Reddit, here on Lemmy and/or other forums with karma systems to try out forums without them. Trust me you’ll notice the difference.
Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.
This has a lot more to do with small self selecting groups to already be on the same page and know each other enough to give each other the benefit of the doubt that they are discussing in other good faith. Not always true, but far more likely simply by being a smaller group
Reddit and other threaded formats allow for easier replies in large groups, which does mean that is less likely and it is more likely to argue with as random user with a significant lack of trust. This lack of trust is also reflected in the voting and behavior related to voting.
Yup you’re right. That last part was more of an addendum for those that consider trying to find new forums.
Obviously, the voting system is only one part of the story. It by itself won’t dictate if a community will be healthy or toxic; other things like the community culture and mods will have a heavier impact. But in my experience, in all the places I’ve been in, the voting system is one of the ingredients that does have an effect on the cake overall.
The benefit I have seen in smaller communities is that it reduces dogpiling and ‘me too!’ redundant comments although at a trade for the negatives you mentioned.
I hope I never find a community that bans users simply because a post/comment they made had too low of a score.
You’ll be better off without them. We’ve seen where that practice leads.