cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/62536902
The ongoing discussions about age-verification and changes in Free and Open-Source Software and GNU Linux and related OSs made me realize a gross misunderstanding on my part. I think many other users may have the same misunderstanding (seeing many comments using the word “traitors”), and it’s important that we become aware of it. We must understand that using or saying “FOSS” or “Linux” does not automatically mean to stand up for human rights, for the community, against corporations, and similar goals and values.
If we read the comments in those age-verification discussions we can see that many developers and possibly also users make statements like “the developers have no obligation towards the community”, “the law is the law, no matter what the community wants”, “we must comply”, and similar. It’s important to realize that many developers work on FOSS not out of consideration for the community, or for human rights, or against corporations. For them it’s just one kind of software development. We may have projects that are FOSS and pro-corporations or pro-surveillance. The “F” in FOSS stands for freedom to modify and distribute the software by/to anyone in the community. It doesn’t stand for “software that promotes / stands up for general human freedom and human rights". But of course there are also developers that work with FOSS because of such values.
So for anyone who, like me, wants to use and promote software as an assertion of, and a stand for, human rights and against corporations, it’s necessary not to stop at “FOSS” or “Linux” but apply more scrutiny and more careful choices. Probably it’s always been like this, but the present times require extra awareness.
I wish there was an acronym or other word that made this moral aspect of some FOSS development clear. This would help users to recognize software projects that share their values, and also those FOSS developers who do work for those values. Is there such a term already out there?


Language evolves. “Free software” does not distinguish between free-as-in-beer and free-as-in-freedom software. “Free and Open” removes all of the ambiguity. I will continue to say FOSS when I mean FOSS because I don’t care about the term some sundowned legend made once upon a time and I do not want to explain this every time it comes up in conversation.
My response was clearly addressed to people who give a shit, which by your own words, you do not. Why are you bothering me?
I mean, he disagrees, that’s pretty far from not giving a shit. I disagree, too, especially considering Free Software now colloquially includes freemium products like Winzip or even Spotify. Words and meaning change, your diatribe to redefine the bad as the good and the good as the bad based on how it used to be just puts people off of the good parts of the message and movement.
Why so aggressive?
Why not ask the guy he was replying to, who was aggressive first?