• SmoothOperator@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    One could understand “men are trash” as having the meaning “every single man is trash”, which would be in line with racism as you say. Or one could understand it as “the group overall is trash”, meaning any individual member isn’t necessarily trash.

    The latter meaning is in some senses a matter of data - men are extremely overrepresented in e.g. violent crimes.

    Which, again, doesn’t much about the individual man.

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        1 hour ago

        Because of the current cultural context, yes. Even when you add “overall.” But I’d be completely open to you elucidating that you are referring to some non-racist point.

        If there’s been a history of people stating this about a group meaning every single member, then you need to assume that’s what they mean. I don’t think that’s the case with men.

        Not saying one meaning must be assumed over the other, you’ll have to depend on cultural context to understand the deeper meaning.

        Compare for example “men can’t give birth” vs. “men love sports”. The former clearly intends to say “all men”, the latter intends “the group overall”.