Men are trash sure; but so is this meme.
No entire group of people is trash. This is the same thinking behind misogyny and racism, and is the exact kind of speech that breeds incels.
One could understand “men are trash” as having the meaning “every single man is trash”, which would be in line with racism as you say. Or one could understand it as “the group overall is trash”, meaning any individual member isn’t necessarily trash.
The latter meaning is in some senses a matter of data - men are extremely overrepresented in e.g. violent crimes.
Which, again, doesn’t much about the individual man.
So would you say “Black people overall are trash” is a racist statement?
Because of the current cultural context, yes. Even when you add “overall.” But I’d be completely open to you elucidating that you are referring to some non-racist point.
If there’s been a history of people stating this about a group meaning every single member, then you need to assume that’s what they mean. I don’t think that’s the case with men.
Not saying one meaning must be assumed over the other, you’ll have to depend on cultural context to understand the deeper meaning.
Compare for example “men can’t give birth” vs. “men love sports”. The former clearly intends to say “all men”, the latter intends “the group overall”.
The expression “cheetahs run fast” is true, even if a slow cheetah, for example a wounded cheetah, is still a cheetah. Thus, the expression “men are trash” is true, even if a non-trashy man is still a man. The insistence on saying “not all men” every time someone says “men are trash” is just a new demonstration of the problem.
(I’m a cis man myself, BTW.)
Edit: this article explains it better than I could.
I’ve seen the same analogy used to justify racism.
Maybe. But an analogy can be rightly used or wrongly used. Racism use this analogy to speak about genetics, biology, to spead hatred; feminism use this analogy to make changes in men and manhood, and spread respect. The difference is essential.
If you read that from this meme, you might need to go back to school to learn some literacy a bit more.
And we are talking about men from nearly 100 years ago. I think a lot of progress has been made.
My point is thats besides the point. Generalizing the negative nature of an entire group of people is what the nazis did, what the imperial japanese did, what racists do, what rapists do, what homopbobes and transphobes do. You can call out misogyny without aligning your behavior with these horrible people, who’s behaving like this is exactly what brought about this kind of mistreatment in the first place.
That’s not why she died. She died because she was incompetent. She was a bad pilot and after a crash the man that was the radio expert quit. She didn’t know how to work the radios and broadcasted to listen on a channel that her radio couldn’t use, she didn’t know how to use the trailing antenna that could have saved them so she had it removed, etc…
This. If she knew how to use her equipment and bothered to learn Morse Code, the best fail-safe of the time, she would have probably been fine. Instead she made a heap of stupid mistakes that cost her life.
Stop posting censored shit on the internet.
Gotta feed the engagement machine
fr. what the fuck is the deal?
It’s ironic that the same reason that Amelia Earhart apparently died, is what causes people to want to censor themselves.
Amelia Earhart fucking ✨died✨
Whoa! She did? So that’s what happened…
Stop posting censored
shitstuff on the internet.Stop posting censored sh*t on the internet.
I’m with you, but I couldn’t find an uncensored version in the 3 seconds I spent looking.
Took 3 seconds to fix
I love this simultaneously anti- and pro-censorship meme. Gets me every time. laughs my parents’ ass off
Free engagement.
Also shitty social media that takes down content for bullshit reasons leading to people self censoring to avoid having their stuff taken down.
They were listening on the frequencies she told them to listen on. How could they have known she didn’t know which antenna to broadcast on?
To put things in context, this is what they used for communication between a tank and its commanders in WWI:
When the Titanic sunk in 1912, they had a telegraph on board, but no voice radio.
In the 1920s radio took off as a one-way broadcaster to receiver technology, but it still was only rarely used as two-way communications. That only really started for communications between ships in WWII.
So, although she didn’t know how to use the radio in her plane, it was mostly because radio communication was a brand new thing. I’m sure what they put in her plane wasn’t some off-the-shelf radio that had standard switches, antennas and parts. It was probably cobbled together from various parts and only the truly tech-oriented people understood it.
Her radio wasn’t off-the-shelf hardware. But I bet that her plane wasn’t either. What she tried to do required much more effort and knowledge than just operating off-the-shelf tools.
What I am trying to say is that she wasn’t stupid, she was just not prepared enough for the task.
Doesn’t matter why she wasn’t able to handle her communication tec, she did not die because of male ignorance. If anything it was her ignorance for not learning how to use her equipment
If anyone is curious here’s a fairly exhaustive description of the radio situation for this flight:
Men are the reason Amelia Earhart died?
Only if you ignore most of the facts about the situation that got her killed, if i recall correctly the mission was a bit rushed, there were some miscommunication, and for some reason her radio wasn’t able to receive from the ship that she was supposed to meet up with, so the ship could hear her but she couldn’t hear them, and thus she couldn’t locate the ship
Oh the problem wasn’t with the radio, she didn’t know how it worked.
This still doesn’t sum up to “she was ignored by men”
Ironically “she ignored men” is technically more correct (although still not what happened)
Correct in word not in context as my grandpappy would say
It indeed does not
If you play the triangle in the Bermuda triangle everyone who’s ever died there comes back to life, but with a catch. All the men have Jenkem filled balls and all the women have smegma filled tits. That’s why no one has ever done it, no one wants hundreds of disgusting abominations risen from the dead.
There’s one exception to this though, a weird Christian cult in the 1970s believe that when Jesus resurrected and escaped from his tomb he actually walked on water all the way to the Bermuda triangle where he died for realsies. The cult members all made a pilgrimage there to play the triangle to resurrect him again but they all died.
no one wants hundreds of disgusting abominations risen from the dead.
Uhhhhh, hold on. I need to buy a cruise ship ticket, and bring a triangle! I absolutely want to bring a swarm of human killing zombies to life. Also, I need the cruise ship to be empty besides me, and crew. We need the space to bring all the zombies aboard, and then bring them all to America. Where they’ll be free to kill all the humans.
Yes. I absolutely DO want this! Booking cruise ship now.
They aren’t like killer zombies though, literally just people with jenkem balls and smegma tits. You wouldn’t be able to tell them apart from other people unless you had sex with them.
Where they’ll be free to kill all the
humansbourgeoisie.
