• Saapas@piefed.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    7 hours ago

    I mean with Trump now, surely Obama comparatively seems great? Not a saint but isn’t it easy to see why those relatives would miss him?

    • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      Obama bombed children, that will never seem great in any way, shape, or form.

      If someone worse than Trump comes along, are you happy to say “I miss Trump?”.

      Have a line and hold it.

      • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Ha ha, and it only gets worse from here. Not just in the US, across the west. Respective of party, every new administration worse than the last. Unless we organize.

      • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 hours ago

        I mean that’s the reason we have the words: “better” and “worse.”

        If something is “better than”, then yes, I believe it is better.

        Y’all act like anyone said Obama was a saint. Hell, some saints have been worse than Obama.

        • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 hours ago

          It’s why the overton window keeps shifting, because the level of evil you accept keeps looking better in comparison to worse.

          • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 hours ago

            Ok what’s your suggestion? To keep going with “worse”? To what end? What if I told you that not everyone wanted Bernie Sanders? What if I told you we live in a world where we need to live with each other and we all have different opinions and values?

            Since you can’t get everything YOU want you think you’re morally superior to others around you.

            Would you say that James Buchanan and/or Andrew Jackson are worse better or worse than Obama?

            History is full of horrible presidents, kings and leaders. Progress isn’t a straight line.

      • Saapas@piefed.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        5 hours ago

        I get your point and I don’t disagree, but surely you get your relatives too?

        • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          4 hours ago

          Nope. I don’t really get that shortsighted mentality of missing the lesser evil.

          Evil is evil regardless and it should never be missed just because you weren’t a victim of their evil deeds. That’s how you abandon your solidarity