PPS: Please at least TRY to read the following - and if possible, not just the title - with an open mind and in a spirit of tolerance. It was written in good faith by a Linux user who will be staying on Linux.

I’m frustrated. Once again, I have had to buy a computer I didn’t want in order to stay on Linux.

Some background. Compared to most people in this forum, I am a somewhat normal computer user. That is, I have not touched a mouse in decades, I use a small lightweight low-end laptop (which is not slow on Linux), and I do not take anything to pieces. To be clear, I’m a programmer and a massive FOSS idealist. But I’ve never been interested in hardware, and in this respect I’m a complete normie. Let’s not forget that for most ordinary people, a “computer” these days is the tethered corporate toy in their pocket.

For me this slide away from free personal computing is now getting impossible to ignore.

  • 20 years ago I could buy a laptop (a Fujitsu) from a major European electronics retailer which came with a Linux CD - a Linux CD! (Kanotix, a Debian variant).
  • In the late 2010s, I had a nice choice of cheap Taiwanese Wintel netbooks. So there was a Windows tax to pay but at least the hardware worked fine.
  • 4 years ago, the options were getting thin on the ground. For 400€ I could find only one Linux-compatible X86 laptop, made by Acer. And since I didn’t have a Linux live USB, I had to (fake-) register the thing with Microsoft in order to get access to the damn web.
  • Today, there’s almost nothing left. Intel laptops have all but disappeared from the budget aisle, replaced by ARM-powered Chromebooks and, increasingly, big Android tablets with keyboards. Putting non-spyware Linux on these things is often possible, sort of, but it’s a nightmare. You’re back to the 2010 era of ROM-flashing on Android, using repos from random developers and wading through impenetrable forum discussions. It’s a massive PITA. This is not the way computing should be done, and normal users will never do it even if they were capable. It’s hardly secure either.

The geeky suggestion which I can hear coming, “buy a secondhand Thinkpad”, is not a proper solution. It’s a band-aid fix with a timeout (PS: meaning it’s on the way to EOL). Hardware from the likes of Tuxedo and Framework is nice but too heavy (PS: correction, Framework is not heavy) and way too expensive for me. The Pinebook Pro is always out of stock.

And anyway, for years I have wanted to move from a laptop to a convertible tablet (like the Surface or Lenovo’s Yoga and Duet lines). It makes so much sense ergonomically and even in terms of maintenance. (Keyboards have moving parts. I have to change my Acer because it has a faulty keyboard which cannot be fixed except professionally at prohibitive cost. Crazy.) But none of these computers are easily compatible with Linux. It’s possible, yes, but hardly simple.

I considered, for a fleeting moment, throwing in the towel. After 20 years.

And then bought yet another laptop, basically the same model as last time except a Chromebook. I know I’ll get an OS I control onto it without too much stress. That’s a relief. But I’m more worried than ever about how this story is going to end.

PS: I should have predicted the bitterness and negativity and cynicism I would provoke simply by sharing my thoughts and feelings in good faith. Social media is absolutely incorrigible. In the meantime I will of course be staying on Linux, as I thought I described.

  • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz
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    8 hours ago

    With an average yearly inflation of almost 2.5% the 400€ in 2006 is the same as about 650€ now in 2026. I have to remind myself of this constantly to avoid being too much of a penny pincher.
    Add in that all low cost computers are at least 50€ costlier 2026 than 2025 due to the AI datacenters hogging all the memory increasing the price of storage, ram, cpu and gpu.

    I know you don’ t want a second hand ThinkPad but they are wonderful long lasting machines. I got a functioning T440 and a T480 both with Debian on them. Second hand from myself as I got them for cheap without storage from work. Saving up for one, second hand or not, might actually save you money due to longevity.
    The keyboard replacement of the proper Lenovo T series is also simple
    https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Lenovo+ThinkPad+T480+Keyboard+Replacement/140096
    Just watch out for the Lenovo TXXs series. The “s” makes them slimmer and much harder to replace parts in.

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      Fair points. I actually earned more 20 years ago than I do today, but that’s on me. In retrospect the real golden age IMO was the netbook era. Those things were Linux-compatible and there was tons of competition so they were cheap as dirt. I had an Asus that cost next to nothing and ended up taking 6 years of constant abuse (in a backpack).

      Yes, I’ve heard about Lenovo T line and I don’t doubt they’re great. A bit too heavy and frankly high performance for me. And it still feels like a temporary solution, like driving a 1980s car because they don’t make them like they did.

      If the Pinebook Pro was in stock I probably would have bought that.

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        I’ve always been a fan of machines with more power to them so I never really tried those dirt cheap netbooks out. Lucking out and getting one that also lasts for 6 years sounds nice. :)

        The ThinkPads are still being made that way though, the latest T-series one earned a 10/10 repairability score at ifixit.
        At the same time most enterprises I’ve been in contact with replaces anything that is 3+ years old instead of troubleshooting and fixing the machine which ensures the refurbished supply.

        I did a quick check and the x13 yoga do sound like a good fit for your wishes, except for it being an older and refurbished machine that is. Convertible, touch and 1.25kg for 421€
        https://www.refurbed.de/en-de/p/lenovo-thinkpad-x13-yoga-10310u/114695b/

        For me it feels like buying an 8 year old car instead of a brand new one. You get a lot more for a lot less.

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          Obviously you’re right about the economics of it. The problem is the arbitrariness factor. I personally don’t much like that. In 25 years I only ever bought a secondhand computer once (a Compaq laptop!) and… it ended up failing on me (HDD). Then there’s the battery issue. I am very careful with my hardware (including keeping the battery within its range) and I know that I will get X years out of it if nobody else has touched it. I agree that secondhand is cheaper overall and certainly greener.

          PS: I like that Yoga a lot!

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            I get it and I would never buy a second hand laptop from a private seller. I’d go for one of those refurb-stores that promises at least 80% remaining battery and a limited 12 month warranty.
            On second thought I might consider the private seller if I could check and test the machine in person before buying.

            I hope you end up enjoying the chromebook until the currect pricing crisis has passed us by. :)