PPS: Please at least TRY to read the following - and if possible, not just the title - with an open mind and in a spirit of tolerance. It was written in good faith by a Linux user who will be staying on Linux.
I’m frustrated. Once again, I have had to buy a computer I didn’t want in order to stay on Linux.
Some background. Compared to most people in this forum, I am a somewhat normal computer user. That is, I have not touched a mouse in decades, I use a small lightweight low-end laptop (which is not slow on Linux), and I do not take anything to pieces. To be clear, I’m a programmer and a massive FOSS idealist. But I’ve never been interested in hardware, and in this respect I’m a complete normie. Let’s not forget that for most ordinary people, a “computer” these days is the tethered corporate toy in their pocket.
For me this slide away from free personal computing is now getting impossible to ignore.
- 20 years ago I could buy a laptop (a Fujitsu) from a major European electronics retailer which came with a Linux CD - a Linux CD! (Kanotix, a Debian variant).
- In the late 2010s, I had a nice choice of cheap Taiwanese Wintel netbooks. So there was a Windows tax to pay but at least the hardware worked fine.
- 4 years ago, the options were getting thin on the ground. For 400€ I could find only one Linux-compatible X86 laptop, made by Acer. And since I didn’t have a Linux live USB, I had to (fake-) register the thing with Microsoft in order to get access to the damn web.
- Today, there’s almost nothing left. Intel laptops have all but disappeared from the budget aisle, replaced by ARM-powered Chromebooks and, increasingly, big Android tablets with keyboards. Putting non-spyware Linux on these things is often possible, sort of, but it’s a nightmare. You’re back to the 2010 era of ROM-flashing on Android, using repos from random developers and wading through impenetrable forum discussions. It’s a massive PITA. This is not the way computing should be done, and normal users will never do it even if they were capable. It’s hardly secure either.
The geeky suggestion which I can hear coming, “buy a secondhand Thinkpad”, is not a proper solution. It’s a band-aid fix with a timeout (PS: meaning it’s on the way to EOL). Hardware from the likes of Tuxedo and Framework is nice but too heavy (PS: correction, Framework is not heavy) and way too expensive for me. The Pinebook Pro is always out of stock.
And anyway, for years I have wanted to move from a laptop to a convertible tablet (like the Surface or Lenovo’s Yoga and Duet lines). It makes so much sense ergonomically and even in terms of maintenance. (Keyboards have moving parts. I have to change my Acer because it has a faulty keyboard which cannot be fixed except professionally at prohibitive cost. Crazy.) But none of these computers are easily compatible with Linux. It’s possible, yes, but hardly simple.
I considered, for a fleeting moment, throwing in the towel. After 20 years.
And then bought yet another laptop, basically the same model as last time except a Chromebook. I know I’ll get an OS I control onto it without too much stress. That’s a relief. But I’m more worried than ever about how this story is going to end.
PS: I should have predicted the bitterness and negativity and cynicism I would provoke simply by sharing my thoughts and feelings in good faith. Social media is absolutely incorrigible. In the meantime I will of course be staying on Linux, as I thought I described.


Why don’t you buy a Dell 2-in-1? Or a Thinkpad X1 Tablet or a Yoga? They’re all just fine. And work superb with Linux. I had mine rotate the desktop when I turned it, the pen was nice and you can take notes with Rnote or Xournal++… A GNOME desktop feels almost like an Android tablet… I’ve been using it for many years like that.
Too expensive, too heavy, too powerful. I want the kind of thing bought by poorer people than Linux techies. 10 years ago it was compatible with Linux. Now it’s not. All explained in my post.
Local shop around my corner has the Dell Latitude 5290 2-in-1 for 239€ refurbished, good condition: https://www.afbshop.de/dell-latitude-5290-2-in-1/de-34.371-b
Or a 7400 2-in-1 with 16GB RAM for 279€: https://www.afbshop.de/dell-latitude-7400-2-in-1/de-37.548-c
Last time I was there they had some Yogas and X1 as well. And the condition is usually pretty alright. Might need a new battery at some point but I’m happy, overall. Plus you’ll have 1 year of warranty etc. I don’t think that’s pricey. And an 8th gen Intel with 8-16GB of RAM is decent, gets the job done. But isn’t too powerful.
Didn’t even know this existed (PS: meaning the Dell - the Yoga is nice too), it fits the bill pretty much perfectly and I would consider stretching my budget if someone was selling it new. Personally I’m not inclined towards secondhand, too much of a control freak (tho I totally respect the idea in theory, it’s greener too).
Yeah. I used to buy new laptops. But I’m not really impressed by all the consumer stuff. I really like the more enterprise model lines. And since I’m not a gamer, more a programmer and internet addict, I don’t need the latest CPUs or a graphics card. So I figured, why not buy some nice enterprise Dell or Thinkpad that had been sitting in some office for 3-4 years… They tend to be sturdy, have better keyboards. Good Linux support… They’re affordable at that point. So now I’ll just buy a refurbished one, swap the SSD for a larger one, install Linux and be done with it. And since I have that shop in my city, I can even do something for local businesses and the planet while at it.
We have similar needs and you make a persuasive case. Perhaps next time.