Everyone and their grandmother knows a war with Iran would mean Iran closing down the strait of Hormuz, so no one was about to do it. So no Harris wouldn’t have done it JFC. You can say they are an adversary without declaring war JFC. Only Trump is dumb enough to do it.
The usa was aware of all the assasinations and let it happen. It may not enter the war directly if it was not Trump but they would still fully back israel with intelligence and money and Iran would still retaliate on the usa assets in the middle east and close the straight of Hormuz
The usa was aware of all the assasinations and let it happen.
Yes, as Israel has done many times before, and as the USA has stood by and allowed many times before.
It may not enter the war directly
Okay, so you fucking agree with my point? What’s the issue here?
if it was not Trump but they would still fully back israel with intelligence and money and Iran would still retaliate on the usa assets in the middle east and close the straight of Hormuz
Wow, I wonder why they didn’t do that the last dozen fucking times we backed Israel with intelligence and money.
Okay, so you fucking agree with my point? What’s the issue here?
The issue is that ton of Iranians would still get killed if the USA was not directly involved but majority of Americans are simply selfish and may only act when ton of Americans get killed in a war
Wow, I wonder why they didn’t do that the last dozen fucking times we backed Israel with intelligence and money.
The preparations for the twelve day war started during Biden and ended during Trump . The reason why this time they went to full scale war is because Israel felt powerful after genociding Gaza with no real consequences from the west and even China and thought they destroyed Hezbollah so they thought they could destroy Iran completely to finally start the greater israel project
The issue is that ton of Iranians would still get killed if the USA was not directly involved
Okay, do you think that less Iranians would be killed if the USA was not involved? Would that be something one might consider a significant difference, or are dead Iranians like a boolean - it only matters if there are dead Iranians or there are not; the actual number of lives fucking murdered doesn’t matter?
but majority of Americans are simply selfish and may only act when ton of Americans get killed in a war
And act in what way? In what positive way for Iran do you see Americans acting in response to Americans being killed in the war? Direct American involvement in the war stopping? Direct American involvement that would almost certainly not have happened under the other administration?
The preparations for the twelve day war started during Biden and ended during Trump .
And the October 2024 strikes, and all the ones before that?
That also doesn’t explain why Iran didn’t close the strait then if your point is valid.
The reason why this time they went to full scale war is because Israel felt powerful after genociding Gaza with no real consequences from the west and even China
You mean like they felt in 2024? Or in 2025?
and thought they destroyed Hezbollah so they thought they could destroy Iran completely to finally start the greater israel project
… that doesn’t explain why Iran would close the strait in response to attacks by Israel alone when it did not do so previously, which is what was asked.
What power projection do you think Israel has in this war? Without the US directly involved, what level of ‘full scale war’ do you think Israel would be able to wage in 2026, even with a theoretically unlimited amount of monetary and materiel aid from the USA?
Okay, do you think that less Iranians would be killed if the USA was not involved?
No. Israel would still receive billions from the USA to did as much damage
And act in what way? In what positive way for Iran do you see Americans acting in response to Americans being killed in the war? Direct American involvement in the war stopping? Direct American involvement that would almost certainly not have happened under the other administration?
Stop voting for pro israel candidates from all the political spectrum. Civil disobedience till your war criminals go to jail
And the October 2024 strikes, and all the ones before that?
The October 2024 strikes was during Biden proving this post point. Dems and republicans keep supporting Israeli settler colonialism and genocides
That also doesn’t explain why Iran didn’t close the strait then if your point is valid.
The other strikes was special military operations. This time Israel goal is the total collapse of Iran as a state so Iran have no choice but closing the straight of Hormuz it is an existential war this time
No. Israel would still receive billions from the USA to did as much damage
So you think… that Israel has 100% of the capacity to inflict damage on Iran with the direct support of the US military as it does without the direct support of the US military?
Stop voting for pro israel candidates from all the political spectrum. Civil disobedience till your war criminals go to jail
And you think either of those results are likely from this war?
The October 2024 strikes was during Biden proving this post point. Dems and republicans keep supporting Israeli settler colonialism and genocides
Okay, the point was never “Other administrations weren’t Zionist!”, the point was fucking “Iran did not close the strait previously in response to Israeli attacks without direct US military assets contributed; why would they have done so this time if the US wasn’t indulging in a brutal bombing campaign of Iran?”
The other strikes was special military operations. This time Israel goal is the total collapse of Iran as a state so Iran have no choice but closing the straight of Hormuz it is an existential war this time
I wonder if Israel’s capacity to even consider such a war is predicated on the willingness of the shitwit currently in the American presidency to contribute American assets directly to the war instead of the usual ‘aid and intelligence’ shite we normally pass on to Israel.
Hm.
I guess we’ll never know despite said aid and intelligence being unconditional since the 1980s, and essentially unlimited since the early 2000s.
Everyone and their grandmother knows a war with Iran would mean Iran closing down the strait of Hormuz, so no one was about to do it. So no Harris wouldn’t have done it JFC. You can say they are an adversary without declaring war JFC. Only Trump is dumb enough to do it.
JFC Kamala would have done whatever Israel did, which was start this war and drag the US into it.
JFC liberals believing they would act different.
JFC your take is idiotic.
You do realize that Israel has struck Iran numerous times before without the US entering into a full-scale war in support, right?
The usa was aware of all the assasinations and let it happen. It may not enter the war directly if it was not Trump but they would still fully back israel with intelligence and money and Iran would still retaliate on the usa assets in the middle east and close the straight of Hormuz
Yes, as Israel has done many times before, and as the USA has stood by and allowed many times before.
Okay, so you fucking agree with my point? What’s the issue here?
Wow, I wonder why they didn’t do that the last dozen fucking times we backed Israel with intelligence and money.
The issue is that ton of Iranians would still get killed if the USA was not directly involved but majority of Americans are simply selfish and may only act when ton of Americans get killed in a war
The preparations for the twelve day war started during Biden and ended during Trump . The reason why this time they went to full scale war is because Israel felt powerful after genociding Gaza with no real consequences from the west and even China and thought they destroyed Hezbollah so they thought they could destroy Iran completely to finally start the greater israel project
Okay, do you think that less Iranians would be killed if the USA was not involved? Would that be something one might consider a significant difference, or are dead Iranians like a boolean - it only matters if there are dead Iranians or there are not; the actual number of lives fucking murdered doesn’t matter?
And act in what way? In what positive way for Iran do you see Americans acting in response to Americans being killed in the war? Direct American involvement in the war stopping? Direct American involvement that would almost certainly not have happened under the other administration?
And the October 2024 strikes, and all the ones before that?
That also doesn’t explain why Iran didn’t close the strait then if your point is valid.
You mean like they felt in 2024? Or in 2025?
… that doesn’t explain why Iran would close the strait in response to attacks by Israel alone when it did not do so previously, which is what was asked.
What power projection do you think Israel has in this war? Without the US directly involved, what level of ‘full scale war’ do you think Israel would be able to wage in 2026, even with a theoretically unlimited amount of monetary and materiel aid from the USA?
No. Israel would still receive billions from the USA to did as much damage
Stop voting for pro israel candidates from all the political spectrum. Civil disobedience till your war criminals go to jail
The October 2024 strikes was during Biden proving this post point. Dems and republicans keep supporting Israeli settler colonialism and genocides
The other strikes was special military operations. This time Israel goal is the total collapse of Iran as a state so Iran have no choice but closing the straight of Hormuz it is an existential war this time
So you think… that Israel has 100% of the capacity to inflict damage on Iran with the direct support of the US military as it does without the direct support of the US military?
And you think either of those results are likely from this war?
Okay, the point was never “Other administrations weren’t Zionist!”, the point was fucking “Iran did not close the strait previously in response to Israeli attacks without direct US military assets contributed; why would they have done so this time if the US wasn’t indulging in a brutal bombing campaign of Iran?”
I wonder if Israel’s capacity to even consider such a war is predicated on the willingness of the shitwit currently in the American presidency to contribute American assets directly to the war instead of the usual ‘aid and intelligence’ shite we normally pass on to Israel.
Hm.
I guess we’ll never know despite said aid and intelligence being unconditional since the 1980s, and essentially unlimited since the early 2000s.