• WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The State abdicating responsibility for murder is a very state like thing to do. It’s like when the priest says “By the power vested in me…” at a wedding. They can try to shrug off the blame but everyone knows onto whose shoulders this responsibility falls.

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      17 hours ago

      As far as I’m concerned, the people demanded Jesus to be crucified because of mob justice. And as a leader, Pontius still has to answer for the people he is governing. I mean, he himself asked the people what did Jesus do wrong.

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        4 hours ago

        He was a military overseer of a very recently conquered area. The Romans were still actively hunting and killing insurrectionists. He very much did not govern by the consent of the governed.

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      24 hours ago

      That’s not how responsibility works, esp. in the killing of Yawshua. Jews killed him with stolen tools of the state. Pilates washed his hands of their murder, and so did the state. This is exactly like when the KKK lynched minorities all the while the state ignored their apartheid praxis.

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        23 hours ago

        I think calling the state’s participation in the klan’s horrors of the Jim crow South “ignoring” is an odd choice. That’s like saying the Israeli government “ignores” settler violence.

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          23 hours ago

          Then we agree this comic makes little sense for Roman soldiers to be saying this, instead of the hypocritical Pharisees who trade a preacher for 30 silver coins.

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            23 hours ago

            Yeah the soldiers and the state were just following orders. Totally absolving them of responsibility for the thing they did because some other people wanted it done too. Like mercenaries in Rhodesia.

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              22 hours ago

              The state ignored the mob disobeying the law. Then legally absolved themselves of their crimes.

              Like mercenaries in Rhodesia.

              Sure, that metaphor works.

              Why did Andy pick the wrong characters for this metaphor?

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                22 hours ago

                Is it because pugjesus is a secret Israeli plant tasked with infiltrating meme communities on low traffic websites to plant anti Roman propaganda so the real Jewish killers of Jesus can make their getaway?

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                  18 hours ago

                  I wouldn’t know anything about that, bruh. Make a thread about that elsewhere.

                  I’m talking about Andy’s choice of characters to metaphor pro statist prop for a religious martyr.