Children are members of society. They’re imperfect, but still. As other members of society, we have a duty to at least tolerate them.
I find it very sad that some people treat them like a different species. You wouldn’t hear people say, without being countered, “I don’t want to see old people” or “I don’t want to have to interact with women”. It’s fucked up, you don’t choose the other members of society.
People just don’t want to be annoyed. It’s in the same vein as ‘I don’t want to see drunks’. Spoiled kids and the uncontrollable alcoholic are almost identical in how annoying they can be.
On that note, ‘I don’t want to see someone’s racist, demented grandpa piss on the doormat’ would also be pretty popular.
Would be better for everyone involved if human kids were raised in creches by professionals instead of whichever rando managed to have unprotected sex at the right/wrong time.
Our experience with children being raised in a group setting by professionals is too full of rampant abuse for this to become an acceptable reality. Even those programs that haven’t propagated systematic physical and sexual abuse soon fell into dangerous neglect through lack of funding or corruption and embezzlement.
I do agree with you as a childfree person who doesn’t like children. Most of the time I blame/hate their parents instead. Like the parents of the kids upstairs. One of them has a “band”. For the past year he’s been trying to learn 3 songs almost every day in the evening. It’s incredibly annoying to listen to this musically untalented kid when I’m tying to relax. Put some goddamned headphones on him, for fuck’s sake.
Why does your intention to do nothing take priority over his intention to do something?
A worrying number of people have somehow become detached from the fact that children - even the tiny, shitting, screaming ones, are fully equal people to them.
Your comment is disingenuous at best. How would you like to listen to a kid trying to learn the same 3 songs for a year, almost every day, and failing at note 10 each time? Why is my moment of peace after work so valueless that it can’t be respected with a SMALL change of the kid using headphones to reproduce the sound of his instruments? I’m not saying don’t stop. I’m saying have the common sense to understand your child isn’t the next Mozart and put some headphones on him. I already can’t enjoy a nice sunny day on the weekends on my balcony without them running and screaming above me. At least give me a break after work.
Has it occurred to you I don’t live alone and would like to hear my partner? Or should I adjust all the time to someone else’s whims when they could reduce their noise towards all inhabitants of the building?
Go buy some soundproofing off AliExpress and/or go find something you enjoy doing without the expectation that those around you think you’re good at it.
Children are members of society. They’re imperfect, but still. As other members of society, we have a duty to at least tolerate them.
I find it very sad that some people treat them like a different species. You wouldn’t hear people say, without being countered, “I don’t want to see old people” or “I don’t want to have to interact with women”. It’s fucked up, you don’t choose the other members of society.
People just don’t want to be annoyed. It’s in the same vein as ‘I don’t want to see drunks’. Spoiled kids and the uncontrollable alcoholic are almost identical in how annoying they can be. On that note, ‘I don’t want to see someone’s racist, demented grandpa piss on the doormat’ would also be pretty popular. Would be better for everyone involved if human kids were raised in creches by professionals instead of whichever rando managed to have unprotected sex at the right/wrong time.
Our experience with children being raised in a group setting by professionals is too full of rampant abuse for this to become an acceptable reality. Even those programs that haven’t propagated systematic physical and sexual abuse soon fell into dangerous neglect through lack of funding or corruption and embezzlement.
The post isn’t criticising the kid, it’s criticising that they have to pay extra for their cat.
My cat is a member of society too. And she’s a better person than any human of any age
No, it’s a cat.
I know antropromorphization is at an all time high right now. But no, your cat is not people.
Both are animals. And a cat is at least as intelligent as a 4yo. Even some 8yo kids can’t claim that.
I do agree with you as a childfree person who doesn’t like children. Most of the time I blame/hate their parents instead. Like the parents of the kids upstairs. One of them has a “band”. For the past year he’s been trying to learn 3 songs almost every day in the evening. It’s incredibly annoying to listen to this musically untalented kid when I’m tying to relax. Put some goddamned headphones on him, for fuck’s sake.
Why does your intention to do nothing take priority over his intention to do something?
A worrying number of people have somehow become detached from the fact that children - even the tiny, shitting, screaming ones, are fully equal people to them.
Your comment is disingenuous at best. How would you like to listen to a kid trying to learn the same 3 songs for a year, almost every day, and failing at note 10 each time? Why is my moment of peace after work so valueless that it can’t be respected with a SMALL change of the kid using headphones to reproduce the sound of his instruments? I’m not saying
don’tstop. I’m saying have the common sense to understand your child isn’t the next Mozart and put some headphones on him. I already can’t enjoy a nice sunny day on the weekends on my balcony without them running and screaming above me. At least give me a break after work.(edit: incorrect double negation)
You are 2026
Has it occurred to you I don’t live alone and would like to hear my partner? Or should I adjust all the time to someone else’s whims when they could reduce their noise towards all inhabitants of the building?
Would you be offended if I said absolutely not?
Go buy some soundproofing off AliExpress and/or go find something you enjoy doing without the expectation that those around you think you’re good at it.