And of they can’t, because they can’t. Every parent is not the ideal parent and will never be, heck there’s parents who are retarded (in the literal sense).
But lets say it’s the average tech illiterate parent, who thinks computers are a gaming machine for kids. Imagine the amount of social engineering and how the marketing departments of companies trying to make kids addicted to their platform. The industries are pouring trillions of dollars in marketing, are you confident that regular parents have a chance of competing with them?
i’m in no way of supporting this because it’s done for other nefarious reason, just commenting on the troupe that parents is responsible for their own kids. We can say that all day, but the reality is that they don’t know what impact it has on their kids mental health and how damaging short term dopamine addiction is for their children. Society is still responsible to help parents navigate healthy behavior for their children.
Tbh if children was the concern of this law, then you would allow parents to sue tiktok and other platforms that have made their children addicted to the platform. You should also be able to sue influencers for promoting stuff to children (they know the age of their userbase).
Still parenting is hard, especially when you are competing with phds in behavioral science or psychologists that help these platforms design their addiction mechanism.
“Parenting is hard” doesn’t take the responsibility away from parents to actually parent their kids and to be aware of what their kids are doing online. I’m not saying everyone will magically start doing that, or that we should expect them to. I’m saying it’s not the government’s job to close that gap. The government doesn’t know what’s best for kids. It’s extremely self evident in the whole age verification push itself. Completely tech illiterate boomers making flawed assumptions about how to handle a situation, and destroying everyone’s privacy in the process. They don’t get to do that just because the US is full of idiots who don’t know how to be parents.
This commenter is pointing out that - definitionally - most parents lack what they need to mount an effective defense or even understand one is needed, because of how the deck is stacked. It isn’t random uninvolved people making the tech addictive and harmful, (contrasting with parents as a group) - it’s roughly the people best on the planet at making those things damaging, who are doing so.
Commenter is not inviting government overreach, but lamenting that every parent is being asked to defend against this most pernicious force, and it’s unrealistic to expect them to succeed. As we clearly see, they don’t succeed, they lose! State of mental development for kids in the US for example is in absolute shambles.
Doesn’t seem very controversial at all, kind of just an obvious observation tbh.
Tbh if children was the concern of this law, then you would allow parents to sue tiktok and other platforms that have made their children addicted to the platform.
Already happening
You should also be able to sue influencers for promoting stuff to children (they know the age of their userbase).
Absolutely yes.
We can say that all day, but the reality is that they don’t know what impact it has on their kids mental health and how damaging short term dopamine addiction is for their children.
We absolutely do know. Which is why we stopped giving cocaine and heroin to kids.
But lets say it’s the average tech illiterate parent, who thinks computers are a gaming machine for kids.
Yeah… Are you seriously advocating that parental responsibility shouldn’t be a thing? If someone is that stupid, they shouldn’t have a kid. And yes. That’s epic levels of stupid.
I don’t think it’s uncharitable at all. That sounds entirely like it’s saying parents shouldn’t be held responsible for knowing about the things they buy their children.
If anyone buys their kid a phone/tablet/computer and gives them unfettered access to the Internet because they think it’s “just a gaming machine” is irresponsible.
I’m not saying a parent should, or could deny their kid access, but you need to AT THE BARE MINIMUM understand what you are putting in that kid’s hands.
And of they can’t, because they can’t. Every parent is not the ideal parent and will never be, heck there’s parents who are retarded (in the literal sense).
But lets say it’s the average tech illiterate parent, who thinks computers are a gaming machine for kids. Imagine the amount of social engineering and how the marketing departments of companies trying to make kids addicted to their platform. The industries are pouring trillions of dollars in marketing, are you confident that regular parents have a chance of competing with them?
i’m in no way of supporting this because it’s done for other nefarious reason, just commenting on the troupe that parents is responsible for their own kids. We can say that all day, but the reality is that they don’t know what impact it has on their kids mental health and how damaging short term dopamine addiction is for their children. Society is still responsible to help parents navigate healthy behavior for their children.
Tbh if children was the concern of this law, then you would allow parents to sue tiktok and other platforms that have made their children addicted to the platform. You should also be able to sue influencers for promoting stuff to children (they know the age of their userbase).
Still parenting is hard, especially when you are competing with phds in behavioral science or psychologists that help these platforms design their addiction mechanism.
“Parenting is hard” doesn’t take the responsibility away from parents to actually parent their kids and to be aware of what their kids are doing online. I’m not saying everyone will magically start doing that, or that we should expect them to. I’m saying it’s not the government’s job to close that gap. The government doesn’t know what’s best for kids. It’s extremely self evident in the whole age verification push itself. Completely tech illiterate boomers making flawed assumptions about how to handle a situation, and destroying everyone’s privacy in the process. They don’t get to do that just because the US is full of idiots who don’t know how to be parents.
This commenter is pointing out that - definitionally - most parents lack what they need to mount an effective defense or even understand one is needed, because of how the deck is stacked. It isn’t random uninvolved people making the tech addictive and harmful, (contrasting with parents as a group) - it’s roughly the people best on the planet at making those things damaging, who are doing so.
Commenter is not inviting government overreach, but lamenting that every parent is being asked to defend against this most pernicious force, and it’s unrealistic to expect them to succeed. As we clearly see, they don’t succeed, they lose! State of mental development for kids in the US for example is in absolute shambles.
Doesn’t seem very controversial at all, kind of just an obvious observation tbh.
Ok, but what’s the solution then? Certainly not the age verification pushes we have seen recently. The tech itself should be regulated, not the users.
Already happening
Absolutely yes.
We absolutely do know. Which is why we stopped giving cocaine and heroin to kids.
Yeah… Are you seriously advocating that parental responsibility shouldn’t be a thing? If someone is that stupid, they shouldn’t have a kid. And yes. That’s epic levels of stupid.
Very clearly not advocating that, what an uncharitable read.
I don’t think it’s uncharitable at all. That sounds entirely like it’s saying parents shouldn’t be held responsible for knowing about the things they buy their children.
If anyone buys their kid a phone/tablet/computer and gives them unfettered access to the Internet because they think it’s “just a gaming machine” is irresponsible.
I’m not saying a parent should, or could deny their kid access, but you need to AT THE BARE MINIMUM understand what you are putting in that kid’s hands.