Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
Do yourself a favor and don’t look into the linguistic history of what is today China. You will see an impressive number of languages that became extinct in the past 100 years.
The Navajo language, like the Tibetan language, is doing well today too. Doesn’t change the history. It’s like you are unable to look at history you find inconvenient. I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason. Oh right you’re an imperialist authoritarian
Please refer to the meme if this is still too hard for you
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
That’s every state that has ever existed or could theoretically exist, lol. That’s not what colonialism is.
I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason.
The only people who’s “brutalization” I’m defending are slaver theocrats, who’s authoritarian boots you’re licking. The indigenous population was being brutalized before, and fared much better after the revolution.
Oh right the old everyone kills their neighbors defense so all genocide is a-ok.
Not even remotely close to what I said.
Feels like you are finally admitting to the imperialism at least
Not even remotely close to what I said.
“States existing” is neither imperialism nor colonialism lmao. Is Switzerland imperialist?
Yeah no, I hold the modern world to a higher standard than that sorry.
A higher standard than could theoretically exist, yes you do. By setting a standard that’s completely impossible for any state to achieve, you can “both sides” anything.
Did modern day switzerland (post ww2 seems like a good line but I’m open on this) draw a random ass claim on parts of France and fill the river with skeletons? That’s certainly not in any history book I’ve ever seen
And no need to say it, it’s the obvious conclusion to your points. Just gotta step away from the boot.
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
“Switzerland” is just some lines drawn on a map enforced via violence. So is “France.” So is literally every country.
Why would the line have to include territory that was part of another country? That’s not what you said, nor is it what China did.
As I said, Tibet had already been a part of China for 200 years. It broke away much like the Confederacy broke away from the US, and like the US, China reasserted control and freed the people from slavery.
And no need to say it, it’s the obvious conclusion to your points. Just gotta step away from the boot.
You’re not asking me to step away from any boot, you’re asking me to lick the boots of authoritarian slaver theocrats.
And we’ve looped right back round to the pro-colonalism logic. Cool cool
Anyway thanks for the several hours of entertainment. I also find the lengths authoritarians go to to justify their preffered state’s actions fascinating. Very similar to the logic that anti-vaxxers and flat earthers use. Hubris about the same as an anti-vaxxer. You truly made this train ride a little faster.
Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
Do yourself a favor and don’t look into the linguistic history of what is today China. You will see an impressive number of languages that became extinct in the past 100 years.
The Navajo language, like the Tibetan language, is doing well today too. Doesn’t change the history. It’s like you are unable to look at history you find inconvenient. I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason. Oh right you’re an imperialist authoritarian
Please refer to the meme if this is still too hard for you
That’s every state that has ever existed or could theoretically exist, lol. That’s not what colonialism is.
The only people who’s “brutalization” I’m defending are slaver theocrats, who’s authoritarian boots you’re licking. The indigenous population was being brutalized before, and fared much better after the revolution.
Oh right the old everyone kills their neighbors defense so all genocide is a-ok.
Yeah no, I hold the modern world to a higher standard than that sorry.
Feels like you are finally admitting to the imperialism at least
Not even remotely close to what I said.
Not even remotely close to what I said.
“States existing” is neither imperialism nor colonialism lmao. Is Switzerland imperialist?
A higher standard than could theoretically exist, yes you do. By setting a standard that’s completely impossible for any state to achieve, you can “both sides” anything.
Did modern day switzerland (post ww2 seems like a good line but I’m open on this) draw a random ass claim on parts of France and fill the river with skeletons? That’s certainly not in any history book I’ve ever seen
And no need to say it, it’s the obvious conclusion to your points. Just gotta step away from the boot.
Moving the goalposts. What you said was:
“Switzerland” is just some lines drawn on a map enforced via violence. So is “France.” So is literally every country.
Why would the line have to include territory that was part of another country? That’s not what you said, nor is it what China did.
As I said, Tibet had already been a part of China for 200 years. It broke away much like the Confederacy broke away from the US, and like the US, China reasserted control and freed the people from slavery.
You’re not asking me to step away from any boot, you’re asking me to lick the boots of authoritarian slaver theocrats.
And we’ve looped right back round to the pro-colonalism logic. Cool cool
Anyway thanks for the several hours of entertainment. I also find the lengths authoritarians go to to justify their preffered state’s actions fascinating. Very similar to the logic that anti-vaxxers and flat earthers use. Hubris about the same as an anti-vaxxer. You truly made this train ride a little faster.
May your boot be firmly lodged 🖖