If passed, the bill would apply across the U.S., unlike the state-level laws already around.

From the press release [my emphasis]:

Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/25834609

The U.S. has been quietly building up a set of state-level laws that push operating system providers into the age verification plague.

California’s AB 1043, signed in October 2025, requires OS providers to collect age data at account setup and pipe it to apps through a real-time API. It kicks in on January 1, 2027.

Colorado is working on something nearly identical. SB26-051 (which we covered when it was still a proposal) passed the state Senate 28-7 on March 3, 2026, and is now waiting on a House vote to become law there too.

However, these are just state-level laws. A new federal bill, H.R.8250, introduced on April 13, 2026, by Rep. Josh Gottheimer, with Rep. Elise M. Stefanik signing on as cosponsor, has us intrigued.

  • cdf12345@lemmy.zipEnglish
    8·
    17 hours ago

    So this is going to have to include basically everything , cars, airplanes, teledildonics .

    How is this ever going to be enforceable?

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      17 hours ago

      The Epstein class wants to know which users are minors.

      This is exactly what this is really about.

      For those of us with any Maga connections left, we need to raise this alarm to them, too.

      Maga types are not paying enough attention to catch on yet, but there’s a good chance it’ll be one of them who is in the best position to do something relevant, when there’s opportunities…

      It’s still a numbers thing. There’s still a lot more victims than actual proper full boot lickers, if we can wake them up.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    94·
    2 days ago

    All of these sorts of laws are designed to do two things:

    1. Destroy privacy

    2. Destroy Free Software (because inevitable end result will be enforcement via DRM, obviously)

    That’s why it’s vitally important to stand united against them, and bootlicking class traitors like Lennart Poettering need to be bitch-slapped into either standing with us or fucking off out of Linux development entirely.

    • redsand@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      16 hours ago

      Ban them. They don’t need push access. Their contributions are no longer welcome in any form on any project.

    • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgEnglish
      5·
      21 hours ago

      I’m sure if we just keep sending more death threats and pizza deliveries to the homes of volunteer FOSS maintainers, the Trump admin will reconsider this law.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        17 hours ago

        WTF are you talking about? First of all, nobody said anything about death threats or pizza deliveries, and second, Poettering is not a “volunteer.” He’s spent his career getting paid by Red Hat and then Microsoft to make Linux more corporate-friendly.

      • redsand@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        16 hours ago

        I would love to hear Danny and this cunt are getting death threats and pizza. Link?

          • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
            1·
            6 hours ago

            There’s literally no way they van enforce laws on an open source project

            I’m guessing you weren’t running a modded Minecraft server when CraftBukkit was hit with a DMCA ban and disappeared from GitHub overnight. (The DMCA is a shit law, passed by shit-heads to be shitty.)

            Open Source is huge, but not invincible. We still have to act up protect it.

  • FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish
    34·
    2 days ago

    If it’s actually “age verification” as quoted, not “age recording” then it’s significantly worse than the state-level bills.

    • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 days ago

      There is so much shit they haven’t thought of trying to ram this through it isn’t funny. Not a one of these dumb motherfuckers has any clue how tech works or what kind of headaches this is going to bring to the tech industry. It’s all feel good politics meant to look good but not actually do any good whatsoever, so theater like most of it already (see TSA). There will be so many loopholes in ways to get around it, it will be less than useless.

      • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        22·
        2 days ago

        Please, dear readers, don’t let this sound encouraging (and no shade to you commenter, I’m not disagreeing with you, just adding on top).

        Broad unenforceable laws that everyone basically constantly violates because of how they’re written - these are actually weapons used to perform selective enforcement.

        Speed limits are a good example, in many jurisdictions all speed limits are artificially low, everyone goes the “normal” speed, and this allows cops to pick and choose their targets. This is partially how “driving while black” could be de facto criminalized, if that reference is familiar.

        Them being bad at this stuff is not as helpful to us as it may seem, when ultimately this and many other laws have a primary purpose that supersedes the stated aims of the law. That purpose being, facilitating targeted enforcement by giving a plausible air of legitimacy.

        • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          1 day ago

          You are 100% right. They will pass all of this and it will suck for a large majority of us. I’m not suggesting it will all be unenforceable (although a large part might be). I’m venting that these people in charge are seeing an opportunity to control and limit much of what has gotten away from being easily surveilled in the first place.

          This is no different than the half a dozen various legislative “solutions” to keeping children online safe.

          • CDA (1996)
          • COPA (1998)
          • DOPA (2006)
          • COPPA 2.0 (2022)
          • KOSA (2022-24)

          The common thread is it’s never really about children or keeping anyone “safe”. It’s about controlling people and information. Previously there were lots opposition from various tech industries and infighting but this seems to be gaining traction which scares the crap out of me. The obvious technical limitations, first amendment violations, and giant loopholes from the internet being a global thing are still there but it doesn’t seem to matter.

          • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            1 day ago

            I flat out have not been able to “catch up” my subconscious to the alarm bells my consciousness is ringing. That’s how significant the shift in the corporate stance is for me (though to be clear it’s not surprising and I never saw them positively).

            Always always always the tech companies were at least a weighty line of defense, like you said. Not so much a guide toward good things but at least a “hey! I’m making money over here, don’t mess that up with your bullshit!” kept things manageable. (Well. Kinda. For a while.)

            But yeah, the mask-off corporate fascism simply realizes it has shed those shackles entirely. They can directly fund and support the fascist in chief for basically all upside.

            We are in fucking trouble. Like I said, I can’t even get my own goddamn brain to see the threat clearly.

            • badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 day ago

              Have hope; the pendulum always swings. One silver lining is that in this late stage of this current swing of the pendulum, many closeted villains have taken off their disguises to go party in the streets with their collaborators. When it swings the other way, there will be extensive documentation of who they all are, rather than just the scapegoats and figureheads.

              • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                1·
                1 day ago

                I’m too old and been disappointed too many times to find that very cheering, but I appreciate ya. Pretty much strictly bummer mode for the rest of the comment, to forewarn.

                The pendulum does indeed swing, and I’ve lately only really noticed how thoroughly the swing back is just blocked. Co-opted into what amounts to damn near nothing… in the best cases! Progress has been defeated, thoroughly, and has been reversing for some time, and that is now accelerating.

                There is of course a low point somewhere, where things can only change, and our adventure in Iran may bring it, but the ruling class seems to have perfected the art of the slow simmer, at least here in the US. Defeating that will be ugly, but we do see some signs that they’re accidentally allowing things to boil via their unchecked greed.

                • badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  1 day ago

                  Its true that they have gotten better at their “simmer tactics”, as you put it, but they have also let a lot of unrelenting blowhards into their ranks that have been so far impossible for them to stifle and are really cramping their style.

                  I’ve often felt that while history seems doomed to its cyclical nature, we have lived straddling two ages in human history. I am of course not at all sure how the Information Age will effect history unfolding this time and into the future, but I think it simply has to have some effect that has never before been seen prior, which is scary, but also fascinating and exciting.

                  One glimmer of hope I see already is the xenophobic, nationalist nature of these strongman autocrat types that cover the pages of history books does not play well at all anywhere but at home. Every time I see one of these infamous goons try to reach across the national boundary to help a fellow authoritarian gain or consolidate power, presumably in an effort to build up a new “Axis”, it is a kiss of death. In the past, it was much easier for these things to happen away from the public eye, and for the grotesqueness of the foreign autocrat to be largely unknown at home, but now the smoky back room is being live streamed around the globe, and the foreign autocrat has a billion views on social media.

                  Maybe the revolution be televised after all!

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Woah, did the media learn something from the California bill? That was only reported very much on after it had already passed. Now this is getting significant coverage when nothing except introduction has happened yet (and let us hope it stays that way).