i am reminded of a factoid i learned like 20 years ago. there is an amount of blood and pus the FDA says is okay to exist in one of these things and its not zero.
Thats one of those “factoids” that came from PETA during one of their milk = rape campaigns. Usually plastered on a picture of a jug of bloody, nasty milk for maximum shock value.
Also milk = rape is totally factual (though a terrible way to try to reach the public)
Bulls are immobilized and forcibly masturbated in order to get sperm.
Cows are then forcibly inseminated to be pregnant back to back during their lives so they produce milk. This also typically involves restraining the cow in some chute and shoving an arm up the her ass to hold the cervix in place during the process.
So if you believe that non-human animals can be SA’d the dairy industry most likely covers that definition.
You can look this stuff up yourself in industry sources, it’s just industry practice including free-range cows.
That isn’t true, if you regularly milk a cow there is no reason to impregnate it again. The cow will continue producing milk as long as it’s regularly milked. It’s the same as human woman, that’s how you end up with some mothers breastfeeding for a creepily long time. Our own species behaves in the same exact way, why does this continue to get repeated.
Yes the dairy cycle is more complex I simplified it because I wanted to focus the impregnation part.
Milk production decreases greatly after the first 9-12 months. To make it profitable they do get impregnated repeatedly. The life of a dairy cow typically goes like this:
15 months old: First pregnancy
24 months old: First calf is born
For around 12 months: milking
60 days “dry off”
The cycle is then repeated. Since pregnancy and milk production is taxing on the body and milk production declines, most cows get slaughtered at 5 years old with an average of 2.5 pregancies (average lifespan is 20 years). This also makes sense because to maintain the herd you need to keep the number of females stable, which have a 50% chance of being born (male claves get slaughtered ofc).
Maybe some homesteads or subsistence farms keep milking them for years after one pregnancy, but otherwise even for free range grass fed whatever, if they sell milk to make a profit this is how it goes.
*Commercial milk, local farms with humane practices still exist and the milk tends to taste like real milk too, not the sour pus stuff most Americans are familiar with.
These practices are not particular to factory farms. Some farms do keep bulls but this is costly and impractical on the long run for genetic diversity reasons, so most non-factory farms also buy sperm and do the artificial insemination.
Also “local” as an adjective doesn’t mean much in terms of practices. All farms are local to somewhere. In a 50km radius of where I live there have been investigations in at least 10 farms that found severe animal abuse and neglect in the last 5 years. Those were all local farms that got to put a nice local stamp in their products.
This is not a “factoid” but a fact you can look up yourself from many non-animal rights sources (even if there are many reliable ones).
Look up “somatic cell count” on Wikipedia. Food safety regulations around the world define a number of somatic cells (which is what pus is made of). Same for blood cells.
If you bothered to look up what a Sematic cell was, You wouldnt be sitting here posting PETA ignorance.
You are literally made up of somatic cells. They make your organs, your skin, your bones, your blood, everything. They are not the big bag boogyman you’ve been propagandized into thinking.
I’m not saying the somatic cells in commercial milk are harmful, that’s precisely why somatic cell counts need to exist.
Your response comment seemed to suggest that the claim that the FDA has a somatic and blood cell count is “PETA propaganda”, which it is not. I didn’t post “PETA ignorance”, just facts you can look up from objective sources.
The original claim was “there is an amount of pus and blood allowed in milk and it’s not zero”. To which you said it wasn’t true (“factoid”). So it was necessary to say that pus is made of somatic cells to explain that the claim is in fact true.
I’m not fear mongering, on the contrary my point is that people should look stuff up before dismissing something as PETA bullshit or whatever.
So it was necessary to say that pus is made of somatic cells to explain that the claim is in fact true.
And so is liver, and intestine, and heart, and skin, and lungs, and bones, and blood, and most everything else in a living creatures body.
You are trying to hide behind a technically because you know the whole “MILK IS FULL OF PUS AND BLOOD” is bullshit. So you keep dancing around the edges, saying somatic cells are pus cells, saying pus is made of somatic cells, trying to trigger a revulsion in the ignorant who don’t know what they even are.
You are trying to do the whole " All people who consume Dihydrogen Monoxide eventually die, highlighting its toxicity" type spiel. Taking a hint of truth, and twisting it out of proportion into something completely ridiculous and unrealistic.
i am reminded of a factoid i learned like 20 years ago. there is an amount of blood and pus the FDA says is okay to exist in one of these things and its not zero.
Thats one of those “factoids” that came from PETA during one of their milk = rape campaigns. Usually plastered on a picture of a jug of bloody, nasty milk for maximum shock value.
Milk from injured teats or sick cows is dumped.
Also milk = rape is totally factual (though a terrible way to try to reach the public)
So if you believe that non-human animals can be SA’d the dairy industry most likely covers that definition.
You can look this stuff up yourself in industry sources, it’s just industry practice including free-range cows.
That isn’t true, if you regularly milk a cow there is no reason to impregnate it again. The cow will continue producing milk as long as it’s regularly milked. It’s the same as human woman, that’s how you end up with some mothers breastfeeding for a creepily long time. Our own species behaves in the same exact way, why does this continue to get repeated.
Yes the dairy cycle is more complex I simplified it because I wanted to focus the impregnation part.
Milk production decreases greatly after the first 9-12 months. To make it profitable they do get impregnated repeatedly. The life of a dairy cow typically goes like this:
The cycle is then repeated. Since pregnancy and milk production is taxing on the body and milk production declines, most cows get slaughtered at 5 years old with an average of 2.5 pregancies (average lifespan is 20 years). This also makes sense because to maintain the herd you need to keep the number of females stable, which have a 50% chance of being born (male claves get slaughtered ofc).
Maybe some homesteads or subsistence farms keep milking them for years after one pregnancy, but otherwise even for free range grass fed whatever, if they sell milk to make a profit this is how it goes.
You can get all this info from industry sources.
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*Commercial milk, local farms with humane practices still exist and the milk tends to taste like real milk too, not the sour pus stuff most Americans are familiar with.
These practices are not particular to factory farms. Some farms do keep bulls but this is costly and impractical on the long run for genetic diversity reasons, so most non-factory farms also buy sperm and do the artificial insemination.
Also “local” as an adjective doesn’t mean much in terms of practices. All farms are local to somewhere. In a 50km radius of where I live there have been investigations in at least 10 farms that found severe animal abuse and neglect in the last 5 years. Those were all local farms that got to put a nice local stamp in their products.
This is not a “factoid” but a fact you can look up yourself from many non-animal rights sources (even if there are many reliable ones).
Look up “somatic cell count” on Wikipedia. Food safety regulations around the world define a number of somatic cells (which is what pus is made of). Same for blood cells.
If you bothered to look up what a Sematic cell was, You wouldnt be sitting here posting PETA ignorance.
You are literally made up of somatic cells. They make your organs, your skin, your bones, your blood, everything. They are not the big bag boogyman you’ve been propagandized into thinking.
I’m not saying the somatic cells in commercial milk are harmful, that’s precisely why somatic cell counts need to exist.
Your response comment seemed to suggest that the claim that the FDA has a somatic and blood cell count is “PETA propaganda”, which it is not. I didn’t post “PETA ignorance”, just facts you can look up from objective sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_cell_count
amazing how quickly the tune changes once someone sees through the bullshit.
first you present them as basically pus cells, and now “oh i’m not saying its bad”
Just ignorant fear mongering over nothing.
The original claim was “there is an amount of pus and blood allowed in milk and it’s not zero”. To which you said it wasn’t true (“factoid”). So it was necessary to say that pus is made of somatic cells to explain that the claim is in fact true.
I’m not fear mongering, on the contrary my point is that people should look stuff up before dismissing something as PETA bullshit or whatever.
And so is liver, and intestine, and heart, and skin, and lungs, and bones, and blood, and most everything else in a living creatures body.
You are trying to hide behind a technically because you know the whole “MILK IS FULL OF PUS AND BLOOD” is bullshit. So you keep dancing around the edges, saying somatic cells are pus cells, saying pus is made of somatic cells, trying to trigger a revulsion in the ignorant who don’t know what they even are.
You are trying to do the whole " All people who consume Dihydrogen Monoxide eventually die, highlighting its toxicity" type spiel. Taking a hint of truth, and twisting it out of proportion into something completely ridiculous and unrealistic.