Sorry to be like this but im sure an argument like this would be thrown your way if this was posted in a big enough room.
Isn’t this how we function evolutionarily? Like in a hunter and gatherers society, men were predominantly the ones required to do “one-hit” labour like hunting, whereas women were predominantly the ones doing “continual” labour like gathering food.
This also reflects in our bodies in many ways like our risk tolerance and physiological stuff. There are 2 types of muscles in human body, one that are needed for quick one-off work and other that are good for continual work. And men have the “one-hit” type more and women the other type. Afaik, this also shows up in endurance training and strength training. Men are generally more capable in strength one, while women are more capable in endurance.
So going by the principle of “to each acc to their capability, to each acc to their need”, it would mean that women should do more of folding sheets while men should do more “dragon killing”
Look, to all you fellow men out there, includes you little shit gen z’s that think women are possessions. JUST FUCKING HELP LOAD DISHES AND FOLD LAUNDRY. Its easy, helps your partner and just makes you a better human.
Also one of the defining traits of our species is our propensity to try varied means of social organization. To act like hunter gatherer H. sapiens were all modeling their societies the same way in regards to gendered division of labor flies in the face of what has been observed in the historical and archeological records.
The Dawn of Everything goes heavily into this and is a fascinating book
Im not gonna continue further, already made too many people “angry”. Somehow this convo became about humans being hunters and what not. And not the original conversation about dishes and dragons.
My whole point was about women having different physiology than men. Please fight the scientists who are researching this, not me.
Your comment did frustrate me at first but I do think you were trying to have a legitimate discussion on the topic and not trolling. I’ve been on that end of a conversation before and it’s discouraging.
Your point about physiology isn’t necessarily wrong but I would point out that different types hunting would be better suited for different genders.
If you need to be able to chase down your prey, women are better suited for cardio and endurance.
If you need to overpower your prey, men are traditionally more suited.
I’m guessing which gender did what was probably completely dependent on the prey available in your specific ecosystem, along with local culture.
But referring back to the original topic, both men and women are capable of care-taking or providing for their family. That’s backed up by archeological studies like this one.
Women, such as myself, are likely frustrated by your questions because many men in our lives use this type of argument as an excuse to avoid responsibility. Because this is a text based forum, I think we miss the body language that would come with your trying to ask an earnest question and automatically assume the worst.
Sorry to be like this but im sure an argument like this would be thrown your way if this was posted in a big enough room.
Isn’t this how we function evolutionarily? Like in a hunter and gatherers society, men were predominantly the ones required to do “one-hit” labour like hunting, whereas women were predominantly the ones doing “continual” labour like gathering food.
This also reflects in our bodies in many ways like our risk tolerance and physiological stuff. There are 2 types of muscles in human body, one that are needed for quick one-off work and other that are good for continual work. And men have the “one-hit” type more and women the other type. Afaik, this also shows up in endurance training and strength training. Men are generally more capable in strength one, while women are more capable in endurance.
So going by the principle of “to each acc to their capability, to each acc to their need”, it would mean that women should do more of folding sheets while men should do more “dragon killing”
Women weren’t really just gathers. The Hunter-Gatherer isn’t exactly right.
Men are hunters, women are gatherers. That was the assumption. A new study upends it.
Look, to all you fellow men out there, includes you little shit gen z’s that think women are possessions. JUST FUCKING HELP LOAD DISHES AND FOLD LAUNDRY. Its easy, helps your partner and just makes you a better human.
Yeeeeeaaaah, comments like this was exactly why i said sorry first. Help your partners folks!
It is a myth, that men were the only ones hunting, so maybe it needs a different explanation.
Also one of the defining traits of our species is our propensity to try varied means of social organization. To act like hunter gatherer H. sapiens were all modeling their societies the same way in regards to gendered division of labor flies in the face of what has been observed in the historical and archeological records.
The Dawn of Everything goes heavily into this and is a fascinating book
This is the third paragraph from the article you provided “Researchers found the female body was better suited for endurance activity…”
Which is what my explanation is based on
Humans were persistence hunters which requires endurance. Lots of strength isn’t really necessary when the prey has exhausted itself.
Im not gonna continue further, already made too many people “angry”. Somehow this convo became about humans being hunters and what not. And not the original conversation about dishes and dragons.
My whole point was about women having different physiology than men. Please fight the scientists who are researching this, not me.
Your comment did frustrate me at first but I do think you were trying to have a legitimate discussion on the topic and not trolling. I’ve been on that end of a conversation before and it’s discouraging.
Your point about physiology isn’t necessarily wrong but I would point out that different types hunting would be better suited for different genders.
If you need to be able to chase down your prey, women are better suited for cardio and endurance.
If you need to overpower your prey, men are traditionally more suited.
I’m guessing which gender did what was probably completely dependent on the prey available in your specific ecosystem, along with local culture.
But referring back to the original topic, both men and women are capable of care-taking or providing for their family. That’s backed up by archeological studies like this one.
Women, such as myself, are likely frustrated by your questions because many men in our lives use this type of argument as an excuse to avoid responsibility. Because this is a text based forum, I think we miss the body language that would come with your trying to ask an earnest question and automatically assume the worst.