The THIRD Palestinian Hexbear Donation Drive IS NOW LIVE! Contribute now and your donations will be MATCHED 100% up to the first 1000€! - Hexbear
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EDIT AGAIN We've raised so far $770 in donations, meaning we've already donated a whopping $1540!!!! including the matching! You dears are wonderful, I love you all! The Third Hexbear Palestinian Donation Drive starts NOW, as explained in my previous post [https://hexbear.net/post/8121292]: I landed a job in March and I will be putting forward 1000€ to match donations by other Hexbear users to a number of Palestinian links (please, if there are other links that I’ve missed or if any of the links isn’t valid for some reason, let me know ASAP). As it worked the previous donation drive [https://hexbear.net/post/3970590] thanks to dear user IgnusNilsen [u/IgnusNilsen], I have compiled a list of what I believe to be confirmed links to Palestinian funds for donations. Simply carry out a donation to any of the links provided and send me proof of said donation via DM or posting a comment in this post. If you wish your username to be public in the donation, you can also just post the proof in a reply to this post. I will try to, as fast as possible (keep in mind that I live in west-European timezone), post both the donation carried out by you and my matching donation to the comments of this post together with the amount donated thus far! Let me know if you want the donation to be anonymous and not related to your username, BY DEFAULT I WILL MENTION THE USERNAME OF THE DONOR Thank you very much to MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [u/MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian], CARCOSA [u/CARCOSA] and Soliman_Ayman [u/Soliman_Ayman] for helping me organize this donation drive. If anyone else is capable of contributing a significant amount to the matching donations, let me know via DM so that we can organize it too and I’ll edit the post. Thank you to OurTimeWillCome [u/OurTimeWillCome] for keeping us alert and reminding us when someone needs help. Feel free to crosspost this donation post to any other federated Lemmy instance in case anyone else wants to contribute. ACTIVE LINKS (PLEASE DM ME IF THE VALIDITY OF THE LINKS IS QUESTIONED OR IF I MISSED ANY LINK) Mahmoud – Help me build my future and build my family home [https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-me-build-my-future-and-build-my-family-home?attribution_id=sl%3A50f68586-5436-4662-aa81-2f6072940a1e] Help Karim and my family… My child needs urgent surgeries and our life is very difficult [https://chuffed.org/project/150674-support-umm-mohammeds-family-to-rebuild-their-future-and-to-survive-amidst-the-genocide] Aya Mohamed - Support Mohamed’s family to reach safety outside Gaza [https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-mohameds-family-to-reach-safety-outside-gaza] Ibrahim hema - Getting food for my brothers [https://gofund.me/5ec3ed09e] Save Hala and her Children in Gaza [https://chuffed.org/project/172805-save-hala-and-her-children-in-gaza] Help Ehab and Abeer Rebuild Their Lives [https://www.gofundme.com/f/donate-to-help-abeer-and-her-family] Help Doaa Radwan’s Family in Gaza [https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-doaa-radwans-family-in-gaza] Sara and Ahmed - Help Rebuild Sara and Ahmed's Lives After the Gaza War [https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-rebuild-sara-and-ahmeds-lives-after-the-gaza-war] Support Heba and Ahmed’s Survival in Gaza [https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-heba-and-ahmeds-survival-in-gaza] Help Taghreed’s family evacuate Gaza [https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-taghreeds-family-evacuate-gaza] HelpMyBrotherADownSynd [https://www.spotfund.com/story/50e29b37-5a06-4282-9d3d-a1376f4b13ae] Save Raghda & Alaa’s Family from Genocide in Gaza [https://www.gofundme.com/f/get-out-and-survive-the-genocide-in-gaza] Help my Family Survive [https://www.gofundme.com/manage/ehfkt-help-my-family-survive] Help the People of Gaza [https://chuffed.org/project/171225-help-the-people-of-gaza]

Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.

  • Riverside@reddthat.comOPEnglish
    15·
    1 day ago

    Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don’t think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.

    In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don’t want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don’t want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government’s policy without hating on Iranian people.

    • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      No its not good enough. They’ve done far more damage to Palestine by advocating against Harris in 2024.

    • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
      48·
      1 day ago

      Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don’t think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.

      That’s not the point, it’s great they’re doing something good but they spread intolerance via propaganda from authoritarian countries.

      In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don’t want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don’t want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government’s policy without hating on Iranian people.

      You must be blind then, because.ml and hexbear are both massive voices on Ukraine being filled with Nazis and it should be wiped out and returned to russia. The only reason they hate what Israel is doing is because Israel is backed by the west, which they hate.

      Would you be here saying how great it is for a white supremacists group raising funds for something? Probably not.

      Tolerance of the intolerant must not be allowed.

      • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        4 hours ago

        They’re horrible because they disagree with the amount of Nazis in Ukraine?

        What percentage of Nazis in Ukraine would you consider “tolerant”, when does the switch flip from “tolerant” to “intolerant”?

        Everyone gets called Nazis, sitting at a table with Nazis makes you a Nazi, and so on.

        but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really

        propaganda doesn’t make it wrong. They DO genuinely have a Nazi problem, see far-right Azov movement. Would you agree that is a problem? Or do you assert that is fake, and the movement never happened or something?

        https://www.theleftchapter.com/post/total-militarization-the-azov-movement-is-colonizing-ukrainian-society-with-neo-nazi-war-ideology

        Is “the left chapter” and hundreds of other sources all Russian propaganda? there is a ton of information online, all fake?

          • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 hours ago

            Why everyone?

            Wouldn’t it be reasonable for Ukraine not to have Nazi military brigades? Is that a bridge too far for you, a Ukrainian?

            Isn’t that an official arm of your government? Are they right wing nationalists or not? I’ve seen them wear SS badges on many occasions, is that AI or fake? You would know better than I.

            I agree, Russia should start in their own backyard, as should all nations. I am against all Nazis and far-right nationalists, in every country, and against armed invasion (like USA’s Iran war and Russia’s invasion).

            So… you still have a Nazi problem, and in your armed forces no less… do you agree? Or are they not a problem for you? Or are they fake news?

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              2 hours ago

              First I’m not Ukrainian. I have family there but I don’t live there or claim that I am Ukrainian. Secondly having groups like that exists everywhere, it doesn’t magically give a country a reason to invade and kill civilians. Or do you think that’s ok because a group existed?

              The Azov regiment had a past, but that’s no longer the case. It hasn’t been that way for more than a decade now. In fact, they didn’t even pull 2% of the votes. AfD pulls way more than that and has an actual voice in Germany, why isn’t France marching into Germany and de-nazifying them?

              https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220325-azov-regiment-takes-centre-stage-in-ukraine-propaganda-war

              So I’ll ask again, do you think that a country should be invaded and it’s civilians targeted and killed because there are white supremacists/kkk/neonazis/racist/etc. In the military ranks?

              All countries have far right shit heels, it’s not going to magically go away, and probably will never go away, but it doesn’t give another country the right to invade and kill civilians.

              You’re just repeating russian propaganda.

              PS…you tankies need to stick with .ml or something, jumping to other instances gets annoying having to tag you when you show up.

      • Riverside@reddthat.comOPEnglish
        9·
        1 day ago

        and it should be wiped out and returned to russia

        You are definitely making this up, saying something like this would first get you dunked and then banned, feel free to do the experiment. I’m saying this as both a frequent hexbear user and someone who hosted a Ukrainian refugee in my own home at the beginning of the war. Again, not the correct post or community to be arguing about this shit.

        • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
          24·
          1 day ago

          https://hexbear.net/post/253926

          I dunno what instance you think I’m talking about but literally hexbear users saying shit like:

          “(but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really).”

          Is not pro Ukrainian, it’s russian propaganda.

          You might need to check and see if the hexbear I’m talking about is the same one you are thinking of.

          I’m not here discussing your support for Ukrainians, I have family in Ukraine, so thank you for taking refugees in.

          • Riverside@reddthat.comOPEnglish
            9·
            17 hours ago

            Great, so now you’re moving the goalposts from hexbear users saying “Ukrainians should be wiped out” to “the Ukrainian government has a Nazi problem”, at least you realized how utterly ridiculous your first claim was.

            Also, “not that Russia’s invasion had anything to do with that” is literally the opposite of Russian propaganda, Russian propaganda explicitly claims that the purpose of the invasion was to denazify Ukraine’s government, so claiming that the invasion had nothing to do with that is explicitly saying that the propaganda is false.

            It’s a much more sensible and reasonable claim about politics and geopolitics that doesn’t wish any evil on Ukrainians, as I originally argued. You may disagree with it as I said, but again, idk why you feel so compelled to bring this whataboutism in a post about fundraising for Palestine. It seems to me that you couldn’t easily find anything contradicting what I said, so you moved the goalposts and tried to make it sound different?

            Edit: holy shit you’re being disingenuous, the post you’re quoting literally says the following: “the working people of ukraine are suffering due to the profitable war mongering of capitalist powers” right before what you pasted here. I will now proceed to disengage with you because you just proved to me that you’re not arguing in good faith, you’re making shit up, moving the goalposts and cherrypicking quotes then misinterpreting them willingly.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              15 hours ago

              https://hexbear.net/post/228858

              Good, fuck Ukraine and their victim bullshit, the entire USSR was affected by the Soviet Famine of the 1930s, and relative to their population it wasn’t even the Ukrainians, but the people of Kazakhstan that lost the most people, yet you never hear them be this fucking obnoxious and claim they were “genocided”. The “Holodomor” was not a genocide, it’s Nazi propaganda.

              You’re blind if you think they’re pro-ukrainian there.

              It takes 2 seconds to find shit like this all over hexbear.

              Hexbear is trash and a stain on the fediverse. They give it a bad name and is why the mass majority of instances have defederated from them.

              • Riverside@reddthat.comOPEnglish
                7·
                15 hours ago

                They are correct, though, and they’re not arguing for elimination of Ukrainians, they’re disagreeing with the modern, western-manufactured idea of the “holodomor” as a willing manmade famine directed to Ukraine in particular with the intention of ethnic cleansing, which is entirely unsupported and a fringe position in actual modern evidence-based historiographical analysis. There was a USSR-wide famine due to unforeseen consequences of rapid collectivization, which had to be carried out this way to pursue the rapid industrialization that saved all Slavic ethnicities from being exterminated by Nazis. This rapid collectivization and industrialization ended up saving a hundred million lives from extermination at the hands of Nazism, and also gave rise to unprecedented life expectancy in the region through the elimination of famines altogether after that (excluding ww2), which were previously commonplace throughout the history of the region.

                The argument is not “fuck Ukrainians, they deserved the holodomor”, it’s “I’m angry when I have to constantly engage with the western-manufactured and nazi-peddled conspiracy theories of genocide against Ukrainians during the Soviet Union”. You surely understand that the user is angry at this.

                If you’re interested and worried about the well-being of Ukrainian people, we can argue if you want about the biggest demographic crisis in Ukraine since WW2, which has been the transition to capitalism:

                Suffice it to say, I dont support the state model of the current Russian Republic, and I honestly believe that Ukrainians lived better under Socialism than they do now, they were already the most impoverished nation in Europe before the war after 30 years of neoliberalism and corruption. Now they’ve gone from being an industrial powerhouse of the USSR with guaranteed healthcare, education, housing and employment, to being a playground for war games of the Russian Republic and the western empire.

                  • Riverside@reddthat.comOPEnglish
                    6·
                    14 hours ago

                    As I said:

                    If you’re interested and worried about the well-being of Ukrainian people, we can argue if you want about the biggest demographic crisis in Ukraine since WW2

                    It seems that you’re not genuinely interested in that and you’re arguing purely in nationalist terms, so yeah, you’ve proven your bad faith and your lack of willingness to discuss the current issues of Ukraine outside your pro-western framework. So yeah, I guess we are done.