I hear people saying “Mozilla isn’t trying to push AI on users”, well here is an example of it.

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          I knew what you meant, to be clear. I was taking the piss.

          driving people away from using stock firefox in the first place.

          I cannot even express what a tiny, insulated minority that you’re in. A lack of these kinds of features is what would drive people away to Chrome. Like holy merciful hell, Firefox’s new LLM page translation is jank, but it’s something (this is the one feature I use; it’s local when you download the language pack, and my alternative would be using Argos locally – more accurate, but slow as hell and less convenient).

          I cannot begin to tell you all the times I wished I had what Chrome had in the way of translation – just without the privacy concerns. I only didn’t switch because of a strong resolve; I read non-English articles all the time. It’s still not as good, but I’m so relieved to finally have a built-in, private translator. And I’m well on the “fuck the proliferation of LLMs” side of the spectrum.

          And I can very well imagine those features I turn off because I don’t want them are to a lot of people what translation was to me.

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              They said, on Lemmy.

              Yes, they said on Lemmy. I solidly understand what it is to be in many tiny, insulated ideological minorities from decades of experience, namely that my experience is often profoundly different from most peoples’. Corporations are obviously inducing demand for large AI models, but I do speak to many people outside my anti-LLM bubble and rub up against the reality that people fucking love to use LLMs to (as an example from the OP) summarize everything for them. So many people I speak to are so fucking brainrotted from using LLMs as a crutch that they’ll whine that like 300 words, for a thing they asked to have explained for them, is too long and needs a summary.

              Chrome is literally worse than stock Firefox. You seem pretty out of touch with what we’re talking about rn.

              Yeah, I’m not going to waste my time with this one.

              Also non-generative translation has existed for years just fine, just saying lol.

              I have no idea what the hell you mean by “non-generative”. Do you even know whay that word means? I see now that one was introduced in late 2023 and I was unaware of it. But what makes this one “generative” and that one “non-generative”? It’s all tokens to tokens, regardless of if it’s an LSTM (I don’t know if that’s what that one used) or a GPT (which I vaguely assume Firefox uses now, and is a generative pretrained transformer, but that’s not really the job it’s doing here; maybe a BERT? Maybe an LSTM still?)