• realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
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    This is whataboutism

    It’s not. If “That game has denuvo so I won’t buy it because I hate DRM” if a stance you have, you should also not buy it because of Steam’s DRM. Otherwise you’re not true to your own word and therefore unbelievable.

    IMO DRM is the far more important issue in gaming.

    Anti-Cheat is on kernel level with far more elevated rights. You don’t know what vanguard or EAC are doing on your system at any given time because these applications literally have more rights than you. They also require full compatibility on the OS, which is why league doesn’t work on linux since the introduction of vanguard.

    On the other hand, denuvo is running as a userspace process that, at worst, wastes a handful of CPU cycles and costs publishers a ton of money.

    Dunno, I got WAY more gripes with anti-cheat than denuvo.

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      It’s not. If “That game has denuvo so I won’t buy it because I hate DRM” if a stance you have, you should also not buy it because of Steam’s DRM. Otherwise you’re not true to your own word and therefore unbelievable.

      Strawman fallacy. You’re arguing against something I didn’t say. I did in fact say “They’re both DRM, they’re both bad.”.

      As surprising as it may be for you, it’s possible to be against both anti-cheat and DRM, which I am. You’re the one here defending Denuvo and trying to minimise other people’s opinions on it.

      I won’t be replying anymore as you’re clearly not here in good faith.

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        Strawman fallacy.

        You sound like a twitter lawyer. “STRAWMAN!” - “WHATABOUTISM!”.

        You’re arguing against something I didn’t say.

        You never said it, however, you implied that SteamDRM is acceptable while Denuvo is fine. Which, in my book, is a contradiction if you say you’re against DRM in particular.

        You’re the one here defending Denuvo and trying to minimise other people’s opinions on it.

        I’m not defending it, I’m just wondering why Denuvo leads people to not buying games but being all fine with using SteamDRM (they’re both DRM after all) or highly invasive anti-cheat. It just makes no sense to me.

        I won’t be replying anymore as you’re clearly not here in good faith.

        That’s fine, have a nice day!