My sister once said to me that “hopefully (her kids) generation will find a solution.”
Said kids were both under five. fucking Christ how about you make a world FOR them
I really fucking hate how weak the formulation “climate change” is. Even “global warming” was weak although it at least described the problem accurately. I prefer “anthropogenic runaway global heating”, mainly because of the acronym.
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The people who could do something are paid off by the businesses who don’t want to save the environment.
Funny part is that we are likely 3 generations into this comic now. I was told the same thing 25 years ago more or less, and have been largely powerless to do anything. If anything the situation has been normalized. I see massive waste in modern consumer goods for example, with zero concern that the production of those goods is also contributing to climate. Like hell, the state of refrigerators today is wild with people replacing them within 10 years as if that is normal.
Yeah, my mother said the same thing when I told her that I was worried about climate change when I was a teenager. I’m now deep into my 40s and, the thing is, I don’t think my generation has even had a chance to try to fix things yet. According to UK government data, the average age of politicians has been 50 since 1979. Our prime minister is 63 and the walking corpse over in America is 79.
What is my generation supposed to do, exactly, when the boomers are so determined to hold onto power? Drives me mad.
Not only do we feel powerless, we are pushed into buying more shit over and over even when we know it is doing the opposite of helping. Whenever there is push back, we get green washing. The climate blame is put on the everydood when all the effects and decisions are from the companies that sell you everything.
An example I always end up thinking about is the change of grocery bags. We went from paper to plastic due to the environmental impact of massive paper mills needed. Plastic was sold on the idea it can be recycled. Plastic bags can be recycled but it takes a method involving a “cold” press as the thin bags will just burn up using standard methods. No bags get recycled as there is no money in it, bags end up in landfills. Plastic bags then become seen as an environmental issue and places start banning them. Replacements are sold in stores now claiming they are being “green”, but the options range from paper (so same issue from years ago), “reusable” heavy plastic bags that are also not recycled and use the plastic of 100s of regular plastic bags, cotton bags that need to be used about 90 times to offset the production of the bag (and we don’t see use on average get to that) or plastic totes that although very durable use the plastic of 1000s of bags worth. None of these solutions make a tonne of sense but the fact that “single” use plastic bags where super efficient never even comes up, the same people who put them in landfills are still around not recycling while they sell us on solutions that don’t really do anything overall. You could have just made the single use bags biodegradable, or pushed reusable bags into not being so hyper finished (the impact of a “nice” cotton bag vs a hemp bag is like night and day) but this way you can sell branded bags to people you used to give free bags to.
The whole thing is frustrating since even my example above is just a red herring over all anyway. The plastic use overall has not gone down from the banning, its gone up. Plastic is still getting in landfills and oceans at an ever increasing rate, and although the blame is often put on the everydood its rarely them that has a say in it. We greenwash everything and then keep doing the same shit, and it has gone on long enough that we can have generational conversations on the subject.
Not to mention the cultural shift of having things that last and passing them down (or at least passing them to someone) to now cheap and low-quality things that need frequent repurchasing. The climate effects of an item that’s passed down for a century are much smaller than even “environmentally friendly” item that lasts a few years.
I have seen things thrown out because they are old by my grandparents and others of their generation. Things that work better then what you can buy new like a very nice wall mounted can opener that was installed before they even bought the place. That can opener I would kill for now, it was 70 years old when they tossed it and it opened cans better then anything I have ever had access to otherwise even after they pulled it from the wall.
Why was it not passed down? It was “old” and theirs so it could not just be given away, the very thought bothered my grandparents of some nar do well having their stuff. I remember when I was a teenager them paying me and my brother to smash all the glass from their old storm windows so that no one could go into the trash and use their stuff.
These are not bad people overall, but this is what I have seen people of that generation do. This is why we have the toss it away and get a new one mentality.
This was eleven years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTdpdFUTyqs
You don’t inherit the environment from your parents, you borrow it from your children.
Boomers didn’t borrow it, they stole it
Por que no los dos?
Porque pedirlo prestado a tus hijos significa que tú eres el responsable; heredarlo de tus padres traslada la responsabilidad a ellos.
thinking about the hole on the ozone layer and CFC ban pisses me off so fucking much.
Here’s a global problem, only affect a few now, but it’ll get much worse and we have to ban this chemical that’s used in a lot of places and all replacements suck…Fuck it lets do it anyways.
From discovery of the problem to solving it with global legislation and treaties tool a few years.
meanwhile global warming, is still ignored.
People were less entitled then
I swear if that happened today, there would be some group that would walk the streets to protest because they need their gas, and everything elae is woke and unamerican. And the pedo president would tell people how safe and unwoke it ia
The simple truth is those chemicals didn’t have as large of an industry behind them as fossil fuels.
aerosols, the main chemical contributing to the degrading ozone layer, were a newer tech and easier to get people to accept they had to give them up or get used to new ones that worked a little differently. petrochemical sources of fuel had been in use for 40 years by the first documentation, and have throughout their history been the lifeblood of the world’s militaries. the problem is not entitlement. the problem is systemic entrenchment.
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what do you even mean? you really wanna tell me the society of the 1990s was less entitled than the society of today? that’s patently absurd. who ran things back then was an entitled boomer generation who had just inherited things from the prior silent generation who picked things up from the greatest generation. that boomer generation is still who’s holding the power. the generations active at the time were the silent generation, boomers, Xers, and millenials. are you really gonna tell me gens Z and alpha have made society net more entitled? nah dawg. what we have is a problem where somewhere along the way we stopped valuing generational continuity so that older generations could hold onto things easier.
The propaganda matrix was more focused on demonizing minorities than enshrining unfettered greed.
Isn’t it going to be a problem since the 1970’s?
Waaaay before that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/
Known/expected since the industrial revolution.
“Can’t let the solutions affect our 401k. You probably won’t get one, so…”
And now there are better and cheaper solutions, and they’re trying to hold us back.
The teacher wasn’t, but he knew the rest of the world was.
What he didn’t realise is:
- A lot of our generation don’t give enough fucks to want to solve the problem
- His generation won’t let us have any economic or political power until they die.
The second one pisses me off so much. Sometimes I do the maths to figure out how old someone famous was when they created a popular media property and seeing the age they were when they were given an opportunity boils my piss.
In this country it’s more about either being at the right place at the right time or knowing the right people. Yet this country still pushes the meritocratic myth.
Kids today can ask you the same question. The generational grievance is another distraction design to pacify you.
They treat climate change as something to put off as it gets worse and worse often with nonsense statements how we don’t have to worry because they’ll be some scientific magic solution that avoids any changes in consumption or extraction which is a completely unrealistic outlook.
And one third of the population is actively trying to make things worse, while a second third don’t care at all and won’t do anything if it’s labelled “political”
and the last third is more interested in infighting than actually doing anything good.
“…and our generation will keep making it worse as long as we’re able!”
It’s a repeating cycle. Generation after generation. Driver’s license, car, plane trips, CO2 heavy food, products from the other side of the globe.
It is easy to walk in these well-trodden paths. It is hard to change things before it is too late.
