cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/63262827
Chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ would be criminalised under proposed state law
cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/63262827
Chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ would be criminalised under proposed state law
Yeah. The people who live in Israel (and Palestine) have a right to exist. The country doesn’t have a right to exist.
In the past this used to be more obvious. When a country lost a war of aggression, they were forced to cede territory at the end of the war, or sometimes they were just wiped out and another country took over that territory.
All the events in Berlin are what people think about when they think about Germany after WWII. But, there’s also Königsberg. After WWII Königsberg became Kaliningrad. It’s a part of Russia that isn’t connected to the rest of Russia by land, only by the Baltic Sea.
IMO, a country engaging in genocide means that country should lose territory. Germany shows that there’s hope that a country can be reborn even after its leaders commit genocide. But, maybe it also shows that that country deserves to cede territory to some of the countries they harmed.
We shouldn’t really look towards the “might is right” geopolitics of the past for how things should be anymore. After WW2 there has been the ideal of a rules based international order under which the people have a right of self-determination and the country has sovereignty which together pretty much means recognizing that the state of Israel does have a right to exist.
People’s right to self-determination stops when that self-determination results in genocide against other people.
Does that preclude Palestine’s right to exist though? Palestinian peoples’ sovereignty?
Because currently Israel appears to be doing everything in its power to prevent that.
If they can determine another nation doesn’t have the right to exist, using Might Is Right, why should the rest of the world accept their right to exist?
it certainly doesn’t and attempts to resolve this have been happening under the international framework where both things are recognized for many decades now… If we had a system that was able to enforce the ideas uniformly instead of the current deeply flawed one where great powers still hold veto over any issue they want it could be that Israel would be prevented from doing that.