• anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    He went to Saudi Arabia to make money and lost many fans. Myself included, those fuck faces killed and dismembered a journalist and deserve no international respect.

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      I mean it’s not even that he went to Saudi Arabia and did this absurd show. It’s how he handled the Fallout. If he had just handled it like a comedian by making a joke he probably would have been fine. He said “I’m sorry but you know I needed the money have you see my wife’s Instagram page?” Or something like that he probably could have emerge somewhat unscathed. Battered but unbroken. But the way he handle it was just so tone deaf and so patronizing and so God damn absurd that a lot of it just had to tune out.

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        That was my gripe, too. Any one of them could have said, “I know it’s an awful regime, but I went to go give a lot of regular Saudis who live in an oppressive state a chance to laugh and have some real fun.” and I would have said, “You know, that’s fair.”, but for some reason not a single one of them did.

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      8 hours ago

      This is interesting because the US government has clearly been very friendly with the Saudi regime for decades, supports monarchy / authoritarianism there militarily and diplomatically, developed the petrodollar system with them which saves the average American household thousands of dollars a year and allows the US government to run a $40 trillion dollar debt with favorable interest rates. Several advantages America has over other Western nations and the rest of the world come from this partnership.

      In a sense every American makes money off of Saudi Arabia and doesn’t realize it. Perhaps that’s something they didn’t consent to so they shouldn’t be held accountable. But if the petrodollar ended tomorrow, inflation in the US would spike almost immediately through currency devaluation and a bond crisis would likely follow.

      The first morally logical step would be to petition one’s own government to stop supporting the Saudi monarchy militarily and diplomatically.

      Tl;dr: The US is the reason Saudi Arabia has international legitimacy and respect. If anyone wants to change that, start with them.

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        7 hours ago

        Won’t work. Saudi spectacularly demolished some NY real estate and the US bent over backwards to pretend Afghanistan was to blame.

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          Well that just makes the US government look worse. I’m all for bringing down theocratic monarchies but if one’s democratically elected government is the only thing propping that up, it would make much more sense to direct the rage there, within a system that answers to its people. Either that or it looks like they’re enjoying the financial benefits of the partnership quietly while engaging in moral grandstanding outwardly.

          If one’s morality is on a firm foundation, petition your government to bring an end to the petrodollar. The Saudi monarchy will fall as you wish for it to. Anything less amounts to hipocrisy.

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        I think a lot of people don’t realize how much power they have when they become popular. That their shitty ideals will spread like wildfire if not kept under control. Once money gets involved people do wild shit.