Obligatory fuck brave. What’s wrong with nord exactly?
I don’t know much about Nord’s quality as a service, but I know that they really spearheaded the effort to spread misinformation on how Internet security works (claiming that a VPN would protect the information you enter into a website when HTTPS already does that) via YouTube ad reads. That alone is enough to make me swear off ever using them.
Also they’re spending just wayyyyy too much on advertising for my taste.
Urgh. I use Mullvad, it’s just 5€ per month and so far works great. I hope there’s nothing bad I don’t know about it. lol
Mullvad complies to all legal requests!!
Which doesn’t matter since they’re properly setup for there to be nothing law enforcement can get out of them.
You can do better than chrome with Edge. That way two companies are keeping your data secure instead of just one!
Yk what thank you, there’s always room for improvement
always lol @ brave
I find this to be 100% accurate and every one should follow this guide to maximize their security
Yes, Google Chrome installs AI locally
without consentautomatically, Brave forces you to use their cloud services.… and Brave is also basically a marketing scam
Consent? What’s that, huh?
Can you tell me more about brave and what you mean?
When you launch Brave for the first time, it will push a lot of services like Brave News, Brave AI, their video call platform etc., all cloud services. Technically, they’re all open source, but I wouldn’t trust them. They have released a separate version, though, which keeps all this things disabled, which is paid on every platform except Linux builds.
Still, Brave is a whole lot better than Chrome, but I wouldn’t trust either.
Brave was created by an anti LGBT asshole
And an advertisement company
Do you know the stance of the Firefox (or other browser) creators on LGBT rights?
Yeah, Firefox fired the anti-lgbtq asshole when his donations came to light. So then he went and founded Brave.
So they fired one anti-LGBT person when he became high-profile (CEO). What about everyone else?
What is it you’re looking for us to validate?
Well I hung out with Mitchell Baker and she seemed pretty chill.
Everyone is so pressed about an on device model they’re not gonna even use. Like, yeah, it’s annoying, they should have told us, and it’s 4gb that could be taken off of my hard drive, but it’s a distraction from all the real issues out there that are much bigger that no one is complaining about.
What’s the thing you replaced with NordVPN? Just so I know to avoid it, of course.
Also, I’m not sure if you’re doing the same, but I collect all data about myself, including metadata, and mail it directly to the NSA. Just saves them the hassle.
Its either mullvad or nothing all day everyday
Finally, finally, I can answer something. I recognize the logo.
https://obscura.com/Thank you very muchissimo!
Is this better than mullvad? I’ve had nord for a while but finally cancelled and am going to get a new one when my sub expires.
Doesn’t even support Android/iOS, still in its infancy, and the benefits it provides are not really needed unless you’re a high-profile individual in which case you should just use Tor + WebTunnel.

Seems like Obscura uses mullvads exit servers so I would imagine it would be a similar level of anonymity. Can’t speak on feature parity though, that will have to come from someone who has used both services.
whats the one above nordvpn?
its obscura, basicly mullvad with a relay for making it impossible to log who you are, if i understand correctly
i also didn’t know what it was credit
Just use mullvad vpn
That’s not an aswer though.
whats wrong w Nordvpn
Way too expensive, the clients are proprietary except for the Linux one, and the amount of sponsorships they do just make them look more suspicious than anything.
It’s a corporation. It is inherently not private. Your government will always be able to get its data. NSA can be presumed to log its activity, whether or not the corporation itself does.
Nord was headquartered in Panama specifically so they wouldn’t have to comply with data requests by intelligence agencies.
Not sure on their current status though.
Nothing. It’s rumors and hearsay. Probably the only negative is an alleged data breach, but that is not confirmed.
…thanks for replying
Whats the rumours and hearsay?
Some people claiming they log data, but they’re mixing it up with other VPN services that actually have been caught logging data. Some people have a problem with their refund policy, but they’re trying to get one after like 6 months or something stupid like that… come on.
Stupid little things.
Thanks - appreciate you taking the time
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