Thanks for this comment and your post. It does seem very cool. I haven’t used the engine they recommend and I’m wondering what new features it has that makes it required to not have issues. I’ll try to check it out this weekend.

I definitely recommend trying out the original quake. And try to think of it from the perspective of 1995 when it came out, when doom and duke nukem 3d were the closest games made before then. The graphics and overall atmosphere of that game were incredible. I actually think it mostly still holds up honestly.

Heh, I was thinking the same but then settled on length: 100%

Yeah, a part of me wants to vent my frustration with kde since I truly wanted it to be good, but it wasn’t, ime.

Now for some reason I just had an idea. It would be pretty awesome if there could be a desktop layout standard configuration format such that on any DE that supports it, you could just load up a config file and get a very similar UI on any DE. I know, it’s a pipe dream but it would be cool.

Edit: and yes I know, GNOME haters. GNOME devs would be the first to reject this idea.

You seem to have a really balanced point of view and that’s good. I wanted to like KDE but on the other hand it reads as windows 2000 to my eyes and it bothers me. I did like some things about the interface but overall it felt too busy for me. I hadn’t tried it in years until the recent plasma update and people raving about it and its customizability convinced me to give it another shot. One of the first things I did was try to customize the top bar and task bar to be cleaner. It crashed several times very quickly. That’s a really bad first impression. The bugs I experienced immediately were as many as I’d seen in years of GNOME experience.

In a perfect world though, yes, GNOME would be more customizable, particularly the overview mode. I do not like it at all. On the other hand, it’s not so bad I wouldn’t just live with it if I didn’t have other options. I do though. To launch any app not common enough to put on my dock, I use ulauncher. It’s not the best but it usually works well as an alfred-style launcher app.

I hated macs until OSX and since then I’ve hated windows more. Just mentioning because I’m sure someone will read what I’ve written and think I’m a Mac guy. Which was true for a bit but I’ve grown to dislike macs a lot as well. Their OS is still better than windows though!

The criticisms I’ve heard:

• You can’t customize it!
• Hey, extensions don’t count, because sometimes they break between major version upgrades!
• The developers are mean! They didn’t even take my suggestions!
• The design philosophy is bad! It doesn’t even want to be windows!

I have been using versions of GNOME for about 5 years now and I have always been able to customize my DE to a very high degree. Out of every random extension I’ve tried, probably 80% work, and that is even counting unmaintained ones that haven’t seen an update in years. And out of those extensions I chose to keep using, I’ve only have an occasional stability issue. I think I’ve actually experienced that once since 2021 when I switched to Linux as a daily driver.

Maybe I’m just asocial but I don’t expect to reach out to my software devs and influence them at all. Unless I reported a bug and they were a dick about it, I’d probably never complain about the devs. And lastly I think the design philosophy is excellent. Maximizing screen real estate while being quite flexible, rejecting everything shitty about windows and incorporating everything good about macOS.

Every problem I’ve had is so far outweighed by the positives that it’s not remotely close. It makes sense to me that it’s so popular. KDE on the other hand… I am glad it exists but I wish it were better. I feel like it literally wants to be windows. People say it is SO customizable and I was convinced to give the latest version a chance recently. It does not feel like finished software to me, tbh. Before I could really give it a shot I needed to customize the UI to be more minimalist. I found the UI to do that quickly. Within five minutes I had crashed the desktop several times, and I felt unable to achieve what I wanted at all. The drag and drop UI for the taskbar area wasn’t stable in my experience. It kept crashing AND wouldn’t do what I wanted.

What criticism of GNOME is so well deserved? I just don’t see any criticism of it that I feel is deserved. Meanwhile KDE seems janky to me and to this day I haven’t once seen anyone hate on it. You’d think it was basically perfect.

I agree. There is basically nothing to learn on GNOME that would take more than 5 minutes to explain. Windows sucks and included in that is the UI. I really don’t understand clinging to that UI so hard. If I didn’t know Stockholm syndrome wasn’t real, I’d call it akin to that …

Given that it isn’t 1994 anymore, your opinion is extremely reasonable.

The fallacy occuring here is when you refuse to admit the real reason you’re using janky Nazi shitcode

I did not ask about picom. I don’t honestly care about it at all other than it sounds like one of MANY issues you’ll have using this mess.

What I asked about is if you need to compile your DE to use xlibre. I wouldn’t have a clue how you could even replace the display server without doing so and no matter how you do it, that seems janky af unless you’re a veteran kernel dev who can troubleshoot wm issues. Which from this thread, you absolutely aren’t.

The other thing I asked you is why you would go so damned far out of your way here to avoid xorg and Wayland. The video in this post doesn’t seem to present any credible reasons why it would be worth dealing with something like this for. Granted I didn’t watch all of it, kinda lost me in the first 10 minutes.

Edit: since you won’t answer me I tracked down how one uses it in Ubuntu just as an example. I guess it’s just a package that replaces xorg or something. Seems jank.

Doesn’t matter what you call it, it’s a weird look for you to be okay with software created by a Nazi, especially when there’s so many better, easier options. You seem to be going to great lengths to integrate Nazi written code with your OS.

That is exactly what they expect.

Didn’t really answer either question.

So you’re compiling your own desktop environment in order to use this? I don’t know what picom is but I cannot imagine the hodgepodge of brokenness you would have to deal with. And for what? Be honest, does it have something to do with these evil jEsUiTs you’re always ranting about?

Literally no indication of that

As a player of quake, nothing here looks at all familiar. No exaggeration. Looks far closer to half life than quake imo… does look kinda cool though.

Lol good luck with that shit

No

TIL rm -v is a thing

Belongs in aneurysm posting.

That might be, but it’s hard to believe many people would not see the result coming ahead of time. It’s just not a believable concept to me that these folks really believed that anything could happen besides trump being more likely to win. The most generous I can be with them is that they didn’t care what would happen.