I’m willing to bet it isn’t an Index upgrade. That was an absolute top end VR HMD with no compromises. If you’re able to run it, with the space for it, then this isn’t going to top it. The resolution is lower, and the tracking is internal (which seems to be fine, but not as good if you can do lighthouses instead).
The only parts that are upgrades, I think, is being able to do things standalone without a connection to a computer, and being wireless (pros and cons).
The index’s resolution kind of sucks at 1440x1600.The steamframe is better at 2160x2160. The index is kind of potato vision IMO. The really high quality tracking from light houses is all the index has.
I had an original Vive though. I’ve used an Index, and it looks mostly totally fine in comparison. It definitely doesn’t suck, but higher is almost always better. Notably though, the Frame will not be pushing this resolution everywhere. It’ll only be where you’re looking, but that’s pretty much fine, if not ideal. Using extra energy and creating more heat to render detail we can’t perceive isn’t good, especially for something mounted to your face.
Yeah, dont get me wrong, its nice to see another device in the inside-out space (to avoid fucking Meta), but I think its going to be too expensive to compete with Meta on the main stage.
But I would also have liked to see a takeover of the high end again, to see Valve push the limits.
Depends on what’s important to you I guess. My Index is collecting dust, mostly because it’s heavy and fiddling with the cables always killed immersion for me.
Yea, its a good alternative, albeit more expensive, to Meta’s Quest devices. I’ll pick one up, but I do want to see Valve target the high-end again and push the VR space like they did with the Index.
I sure, if/when they do an Index 2 it’ll be wireless optional at least. They’ve already developed the tech for it. I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t be included with the “no compromises” headset.
Where would you say the Index has fallen behind, and what about the Frame is better? Isn’t the lack of room tracking a big drawback of the Frame vs the Index?
Upgraded to the beyond 2e from my reverb G2 and I absolutely love it! Had to go through a couple different face plates since my eyelashes were touching the lenses, but their support was really good about getting a replacement/new face scan.
Imo the weakest area is the audio strap, especially coming from the G2 which has identical speakers to the index, but in the future I’ll probably look into the project beyondex strap to get the index speakers working with it
For me, wireless is the big selling point. As far as I know room scale tracking is still a thing. In the hands on video from tested.com you can see the host walking around, with the play area displayed at a fixed spot
I want the wireless phovated streaming. I’m hoping I can use it in my backyard to have a huge play space. I also like the idea of using it as a linux “spatial computer”. IDK how well that’s going to work. I might still use my index for seated VR stuff where any drift would be noticeable.
I’m hype for the steam frame. I want an index upgrade so bad.
I’m willing to bet it isn’t an Index upgrade. That was an absolute top end VR HMD with no compromises. If you’re able to run it, with the space for it, then this isn’t going to top it. The resolution is lower, and the tracking is internal (which seems to be fine, but not as good if you can do lighthouses instead).
The only parts that are upgrades, I think, is being able to do things standalone without a connection to a computer, and being wireless (pros and cons).
The index’s resolution kind of sucks at 1440x1600.The steamframe is better at 2160x2160. The index is kind of potato vision IMO. The really high quality tracking from light houses is all the index has.
I thought the Index was higher than that.
I had an original Vive though. I’ve used an Index, and it looks mostly totally fine in comparison. It definitely doesn’t suck, but higher is almost always better. Notably though, the Frame will not be pushing this resolution everywhere. It’ll only be where you’re looking, but that’s pretty much fine, if not ideal. Using extra energy and creating more heat to render detail we can’t perceive isn’t good, especially for something mounted to your face.
I never even bought a VR set yet, I’ve been waiting for an index upgrade forever to finally get into VR.
I just hope the price is low enough that it isn’t an absurd purchase, but too high for most scalper assholes.
This is more of a side-grade. I was hoping for an actual Index 2.
I’m glad it isn’t Index 2. The frame seems way more accessible.
Yeah, dont get me wrong, its nice to see another device in the inside-out space (to avoid fucking Meta), but I think its going to be too expensive to compete with Meta on the main stage.
But I would also have liked to see a takeover of the high end again, to see Valve push the limits.
I hope you’re underestimating the number of people who want vr but refuse to buy a quest because of meta.
I guess valve will decide what comes next when they have an idea for how the frame does. At least the hype makes it sound like it could sell well.
Yea, I see why they have done it, its a good move! But I still want an insane high end headset :D
Depends on what’s important to you I guess. My Index is collecting dust, mostly because it’s heavy and fiddling with the cables always killed immersion for me.
Yea, its a good alternative, albeit more expensive, to Meta’s Quest devices. I’ll pick one up, but I do want to see Valve target the high-end again and push the VR space like they did with the Index.
As long as they do that with a wireless version, I will splurge on that as well, I am sure :D
I sure, if/when they do an Index 2 it’ll be wireless optional at least. They’ve already developed the tech for it. I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t be included with the “no compromises” headset.
I thought that is what it was going to be, both tracking options in a next-level headset!
Where would you say the Index has fallen behind, and what about the Frame is better? Isn’t the lack of room tracking a big drawback of the Frame vs the Index?
This basically top of the line VR now: https://store.bigscreenvr.com/products/bigscreen-beyond-2
The Index has fallen behind a lot and a new model would have been amazing.
Upgraded to the beyond 2e from my reverb G2 and I absolutely love it! Had to go through a couple different face plates since my eyelashes were touching the lenses, but their support was really good about getting a replacement/new face scan.
Imo the weakest area is the audio strap, especially coming from the G2 which has identical speakers to the index, but in the future I’ll probably look into the project beyondex strap to get the index speakers working with it
For me, wireless is the big selling point. As far as I know room scale tracking is still a thing. In the hands on video from tested.com you can see the host walking around, with the play area displayed at a fixed spot
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I want the wireless phovated streaming. I’m hoping I can use it in my backyard to have a huge play space. I also like the idea of using it as a linux “spatial computer”. IDK how well that’s going to work. I might still use my index for seated VR stuff where any drift would be noticeable.
Same. I sold mine nearly a year ago in anticipation. Can’t wait to spend a dumb amount of money on a new toy.