Donets and Lugansk were regions of Ukraine which attempted to secede through democratic means, and in 2014 the Ukrainian government started to bomb them in response, so a civil war was triggered. After the Russian annexation of part of those territories since 2022, some orphanages which existed in the region, more so given the civil war, had formally Ukrainian children under no de-facto protection by the Ukrainian government, and these children were in formally Russian territory under Russian law. What do you expect a government to do in those circumstances, to send them to somewhere in Ukraine where they never lived or to take responsibility for them?
Again, think for one second: how many children do you expect to see in a warzone? This is a matter of children without parents stranded in a region of the world which changes de-facto government from one country to another.
Given your qualms with nationalities: do you think Estonia engaged in genocide when it forced ethnic Russian citizens who legally lived there in USSR times to absorb the Estonian nationality to have rights in Estonia?
Stripping people especially children of their citizenship and making them Russians without giving them a choice fits that definition of a genocide
Doing this on a widespread enough scale with the intent of eliminating an entire culture would likely fit the definition. The Ukrainian government claims 30k children, a figure that hasn’t been independently confirmed by any third party journalistic investigation.
You’re grasping at straws to apply the definition of genocide because it’s convenient to your worldview. If Russia wanted to eliminate Ukrainians, the number of civilian casualties would be unfathomably larger, seeing how the civilian casualty ratio is something like 1/10 compared to 1/1 for the US invasion of Iraq, it’s quite easy to dismiss this idea.
Donets and Lugansk were regions of Ukraine which attempted to secede through democratic means, and in 2014 the Ukrainian government started to bomb them in response, so a civil war was triggered. After the Russian annexation of part of those territories since 2022, some orphanages which existed in the region, more so given the civil war, had formally Ukrainian children under no de-facto protection by the Ukrainian government, and these children were in formally Russian territory under Russian law. What do you expect a government to do in those circumstances, to send them to somewhere in Ukraine where they never lived or to take responsibility for them?
Again, think for one second: how many children do you expect to see in a warzone? This is a matter of children without parents stranded in a region of the world which changes de-facto government from one country to another.
Given your qualms with nationalities: do you think Estonia engaged in genocide when it forced ethnic Russian citizens who legally lived there in USSR times to absorb the Estonian nationality to have rights in Estonia?
It doesn’t matter what I think it matters what the definition of a genocide is.
Stripping people especially children of their citizenship and making them Russians without giving them a choice fits that definition of a genocide.
Doing this on a widespread enough scale with the intent of eliminating an entire culture would likely fit the definition. The Ukrainian government claims 30k children, a figure that hasn’t been independently confirmed by any third party journalistic investigation.
You’re grasping at straws to apply the definition of genocide because it’s convenient to your worldview. If Russia wanted to eliminate Ukrainians, the number of civilian casualties would be unfathomably larger, seeing how the civilian casualty ratio is something like 1/10 compared to 1/1 for the US invasion of Iraq, it’s quite easy to dismiss this idea.
Lol. No it doesn’t