There’s a popular-ish open source game I remember playing a few years ago, Warsow, and when I checked on it now, it’s been forked and while the fork is genuinely better and funner to play in so many ways, it expects to be launched through Steam. I wanted to tinker with maps and stuff and started researching, and while I did find what I was looking for somewhat in older Warsow-related threads, when I went to the official warfork-qfusion github repo looking for specific documentation for the new fork, I was greeted with a link to their Discord “if you have any questions”.

Yet this game brands itself FOSS, and it is technically released under a FOSS license and their github shows that they are actively developing it in cooperation with a community - just not a community you can be in without accepting certain walled gardens. It honestly sucks to see. I wanna access threads discussing this software, but I won’t be able to unless I go through an ID verification process and trust a silicon valley company to both secure my data and not use it in some nefarious way. And to even run the game, I had to accept Steam, which I honestly didn’t have to do in order to run Warsow back in the day, and I enjoyed that - what was wrong with just shipping a binary and letting people launch it how they like, with optional integrations? What’s wrong with having an open forum for tech questions? Why wall the garden that you’re making supposedly open products in?

In short, what do you call projects like this - the increasingly common projects that, while technically FOSS, put all their documentation and discussion on discord, and seem to expect their users to swallow unsavory default options or even use proprietary middle-ware or launchers? Proprietary FOSS?

  • moonpiedumplings@programming.devEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    Moderation, much as the average internet user loves to lambast it, is not an easy task at all.

    This is exactly why you should use reddit lemmy as a forum instead of discord. One of the repeated problems I have seen in the emulation on android community, is that there are many entittled children, who harass and troll in these communities. Moderators have to ban them, but the bans are per server. That means that each server has to deal with the same troll who kicks up a fuss, and then ban them. And then they create a new account and repeat. I have seen communities and projects die due to harassment and trolling and it makes me sad.

    But on reddit Lemmy, instance bans could be applied to ban problematic users from many communities at once, saving and deduplicating work.

    Moderation is a lot of work, but moderating a reddit Lemmy community is ultimately a team sport, rather than an individual one.

    • TehPers@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      3 hours ago

      reddit Lemmy

      ?

      Moderators have to ban them, but the bans are per server.

      If you want to avoid children in the server for whatever reason, mark the channel as NSFW (though this might trigger the age verification BS for some people). Even without that, Discord generally has a minimum age requirement, so if someone admits to being below that age, you can report their account (and server owners might need to if they want to avoid issues).

      There are many benefits to switching to something forum-based like Lemmy though. Aside from freeing yourself from Discord’s chokehold, you also get better archival of discussions for free, better discoverability through internet/post searches, better control over who can comment, a potential community of moderators, possibly better accessibility for visually-impaired people (even if only because images can have alt text), and so on.

      Alternatives to Lemmy could be as simple as issues or discussions on the project, a community-maintained wiki, and so on.