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So is the author saying Che Guevara didn’t exist?
That was what I noticed as well, scare quotes atound his name as if he was a vague or fantastical concept.
The Facebook Boomer form of grammar is fascinatingly stupid.
Yeah but if I believed in scary quote then I’d think everyone would get scared if I said “lacked good hygiene ritual”
But my next thought was they believe the person in the picture was doubted to be Che. Maybe that adds fantastical element of Che living on and orchestrating events presumably to this day
But the author was being petty
Che isn’t his name it’s a nickname. I think they’re using quotation in the sense of naming convention Ernesto “Che” Guevara would normally be used to denote it is a nick name and not part of his legal name.
I’m old though and reading things with continually common grammar from the last few centuries until the modern digital era has started changing things isn’t a problem for me to figure out from the context it’s written in unlike those people who are bothered by “scare quotes” that havent been reading things since before the internet existed
Average Internet leftist discussion
Yes, because the joke is that the actual sentiment is that communism is the goal and socialism is a potential way to make the transition easier. See: The State and Revolution, chapter V.
ETA: completing the thought: and “internet leftists” are not interested in actually understanding the writing of historical figures.
Yes, I understood that. My joke was that internet leftists often engage in stupid arguments with themselves and have clashing ideas of what is ‘right’.
(Example A: this discussion lmao)
Yikes I did the thing where I replied to what looked like the most relevant comment but wasn’t necessarily replying to that individual. Sorry 😐
Ah, all good lmao
Tbh was a decent comment just not in reply to me 😅
that apostrophe is bugging the shit out of me
“Socialism is the goal, communism is the way to reach it” is actually what a lot of MLs seem to secretly believe in the sense that they want to use the appeal of communism to motivate people to create socialism. I have seen very little interest from them in actually building communism.
I have seen very little interest from them in actually building communism.
Or even socialism, for that matter - despite the fact that they had oodles of time and resources to do it.
This is literally the first time I have ever encountered this take.
that’s because it’s a nonsensical take.
you can wishcast communism without going through the stages of socialism
What no theory does to a mf
Your interpretation of Stalin’s interpretation of Lenin’s interpretation of Engels’ interpretation of Marx’s unproven conjecture is not a scientific law.
Imagine being able to press the communism button
when there’s still imperialist forces/states ready to undo your revolution. Your understanding of socialism and communism is idealist and not scientific at all.if you’re waiting until Empire falls to try communism, then you’re going to be waiting a long time. empires rise and empires fall, but one thing that never changes is there’s always another one to replace the old. that chain isn’t going to break if you’re just going to sit around waiting.
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