• toebert@piefed.social
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    It does seem like someone wants their investments back and pass on the money black hole over to the public.

    I’d be surprised if they can continue their business as is after an IPO.

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      SpaceX is going public at $2 Trillion dollars on like $12b of revenue.

      They’re trying to foist the bag on to index funds.

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          Yes.

          Elon musk had SpaceX buy XAi which bought Twitter all for increasingly more money from himself. The valuation is based on that. Somehow.

          Apparently they claim their TAM is $28T because identifying trillion dollar businesses is their core “repeatable business model”. None of the companies folded into SpaceX now are trillion dollar companies. How the argument that the core business is making trillion dollar companies, despite not making any trillion dollar companies, makes any sense I do not know.

          Also uhh… don’t look at their declining real revenue, or that they just bought $1B of depreciating assets from Tesla like $138M of cyber trucks. That definitely was not because they weren’t selling.

          Edit: Here’s a video on this so you all can see exactly how shitty this deal is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6YzlY_8tM

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            Yes I believe the TAM or value or whatever of a single company is 12% of all wealth in the U.S. That makes sense.

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            “We want to be a trillion dolar company because we want to becom3 a trillion dolar company!”

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        How can it be possible?

        How in the everloving fuck can that happen?

        How are the streets not running with blood?

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          waves hands

          Corruption.

          Fire all the regulators, find some shit to pump, get all your buddies in, have the NASDAQ make special rules for you, then everyone who bought in private sells on open when the index funds have to buy in. Many pensions may be legally forced to buy this shit to satisfy regulations.

          It’s fucked. Well over 100x revenue multiples at IPO. They just filled their S1.

          The market makers are turning index funds into 2008’s CDOs.

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      They are going to enshittify so hard trying to get their money back… it’s too bad, too. I use ChatGPT a fair bit for various things. But eras end and this could herald the end of it being useful to me. At some point I was always just going to set up my own local AI on a server here at home. Hopefully hardware prices can recover a bit before I feel compelled to move on from ChatGPT.

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        I saw an article talking about how prices for AI are cheap as hell right now cuz they’re trying to get people used to not thinking (or programing) for themselves. Then when people are dependent on it they’re planning on jacking the price up.

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          That’s only partially true.

          The other half is that “almost as good” AI like GLM’s coder plan, Kimi, and dozens of other providers are dirt cheap. And getting cheaper, fast.

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          The prices are already going up, look at anthropic’s price hikes, or the GitHub copilot ones. You’re right it is just the start though.