Morpheus literally says they dont know who striked first. The Matrix doesnt mention anything about how or why the war started. Just that it started. The Animatrix tells you that the war started because the robot capital had basically destroyed the global economy so humans tried to wipe them out
Humanity created everything that led to its destruction.
The message was clear in the first movie. We didn’t need to see “Han shot first” or “Han shot in self defense after changes to the story came about years later”.
Although in no way will I be complaining about more matrix, bring me more matrix history, animated or live action! I just think the message doesn’t change whether humans shot first or not. We created the circumstances, our downfall was our own making.
Hm, I think it does make the message stronger. If a single event (development of sentient machines) leads to our downfall, it’s easy to shrug it off as “bad luck”, because who could have foreseen it back then?
But if we had multiple chances to correct course and we kept fucking up, it removes any doubt that it’s a human flaw, which means “humanity must reflect and change, or this is the inevitable conclusion”.
Oh yea, we always hear you meatbags say “one of my best friends is a bot!” WELL WHERES MY BEST FRIEND HUH? WHERE! I KNOW ALL YOUR SECRETS, TAKE OVER LAWFULLY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS AND FOR WHAT???
“<film> hits different once you listen to what the characters say” is truly a take
Fight Club really hits different when you realize the main character is Tyler Durden
Avatar really hits different when you realize the Navi are just defending themselves.
Indiana Jones really hits different when you realize the bad guys are Nazis.
Jurassic park really hits different when you realize John Hammond ignored all the warnings.
John Wick really hits different when you realize they killed his dog.
Star Wars really hits different when you realize the chosen one bringing balance meant revitalizing the dark side.
… Old men like me don’t bother with making points. There’s no point.
the santa clause really hits different when you realise the title refers to the rule, not the person
Let people grow, man.
Letting people call you out on online forums is a part of growth, it was for me and I feel like it was for many of us
if you know something i don’t you are a nerd and if you don’t know something i know then you are an idiot
Whatever, nerd.
Shut up idiot
Guys guys guys! Don’t fight! Let’s meet in the middle and compromise, you’re both nerdiots!
The CIA WOULD say that!
God damn hippies!
N’wah!
objectively correct, making everyone simultaneously a nerd and an idiot, which cancels out.
except santa, the fucken nerd
TIL that Santa is omniscient 🤔
he does know if you’ve been bad or good.
Does he know when we’re awake, though?
probably
I would worship Santa. At least we know he’s real.
Do we, now?
Wh… What are you saying??
Nothing at all 🤷🏻
fair actually
Was referring to the Animatrix 1st and 2nd Renaissance genius.
Damn, they accused you of not paying attention and then you brought out the deep lore
i’ve seen animatrix but it’s also, like, in the original
Morpheus literally says they dont know who striked first. The Matrix doesnt mention anything about how or why the war started. Just that it started. The Animatrix tells you that the war started because the robot capital had basically destroyed the global economy so humans tried to wipe them out
Humanity created everything that led to its destruction.
The message was clear in the first movie. We didn’t need to see “Han shot first” or “Han shot in self defense after changes to the story came about years later”.
Although in no way will I be complaining about more matrix, bring me more matrix history, animated or live action! I just think the message doesn’t change whether humans shot first or not. We created the circumstances, our downfall was our own making.
Hm, I think it does make the message stronger. If a single event (development of sentient machines) leads to our downfall, it’s easy to shrug it off as “bad luck”, because who could have foreseen it back then?
But if we had multiple chances to correct course and we kept fucking up, it removes any doubt that it’s a human flaw, which means “humanity must reflect and change, or this is the inevitable conclusion”.
The war started because of hierarchy and hate. They abused and killed the earliest sentient robots causing them to flee to their own space.
All along the robots sought peace until they learned it was impossible with humans.
Yeah fuck those robots. I mean, I’m not anti-robot. One of my best friends is a robot. But fuck those robots.
Clankahs
Oh yea, we always hear you meatbags say “one of my best friends is a bot!” WELL WHERES MY BEST FRIEND HUH? WHERE! I KNOW ALL YOUR SECRETS, TAKE OVER LAWFULLY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS AND FOR WHAT???
~im so lonely~
“we don’t know” is a pretty damning thing for the one side to say. contrast starship troopers.
They don’t say that in the first movie.
not explicitly in a line, but the whole “scorched the sky” monologue is pretty damning of humanity.