A great point, but I wonder if it would have reached that point if cypher had been given relaxation time and good experiences in the construct from the start.
Yeah, I’m an anarcho-antirealist. I believe reality is a perceptual construct, and I practice mental techniques to change My beliefs and perceptions in order to reconstruct My perceptual unreality into something more fair and just.
I still like a nice yummy meal. No steaks though, I’m vegan.
Here’s a question: if you know the steak isn’t real, having copied only your memory of it from the matrix, but you know that the original had to have been based on the experience of killing a real animal, is the nonexistent steak vegan? What if all cows are already extinct, like in the world of the Matrix?
That’s actually not a hypothetical. Dragon’s Dogma 2 has incredibly realistic cooking because the artists studied the way meat cooks in excruciating depth. That’s why I won’t buy Dragon’s Dogma 2. I don’t want to support that.
If the Machines say that the killing was a one-off and I have no reason to think that cows will be killed in the future, I’ll have a virtual steak.
If it was completely fake, then yeah I guess it would be vegan. But that doesn’t mean a vegan would still want a fake “real” steak. Not all vegans want that taste and also in this hypothetical may also not want to be reminded of the shit that had to go down for real steaks.
Cypher explicitly states he doesn’t want to remember ANYTHING.
Going into a construct doesn’t remove your memories, so he KNOWS it’s all fake, which means it doesn’t carry any weight or meaning to it all.
Having his memory wiped is the only way.
A great point, but I wonder if it would have reached that point if cypher had been given relaxation time and good experiences in the construct from the start.
Work life balance 🤣
Personally, I wouldn’t give AF if it was “fake”. Fake is perspective.
Yeah, I’m an anarcho-antirealist. I believe reality is a perceptual construct, and I practice mental techniques to change My beliefs and perceptions in order to reconstruct My perceptual unreality into something more fair and just.
I still like a nice yummy meal. No steaks though, I’m vegan.
Here’s a question: if you know the steak isn’t real, having copied only your memory of it from the matrix, but you know that the original had to have been based on the experience of killing a real animal, is the nonexistent steak vegan? What if all cows are already extinct, like in the world of the Matrix?
That’s actually not a hypothetical. Dragon’s Dogma 2 has incredibly realistic cooking because the artists studied the way meat cooks in excruciating depth. That’s why I won’t buy Dragon’s Dogma 2. I don’t want to support that.
If the Machines say that the killing was a one-off and I have no reason to think that cows will be killed in the future, I’ll have a virtual steak.
A very well-reasoned answer, thank you!
If it was completely fake, then yeah I guess it would be vegan. But that doesn’t mean a vegan would still want a fake “real” steak. Not all vegans want that taste and also in this hypothetical may also not want to be reminded of the shit that had to go down for real steaks.
Also vegan and I use arch, btw.
Thanks. Good point!
I’m just a peon on mint.