But “biological sex exists”… is a lie how? Unless its a variant on “objects exist” as a lie to refer to the rejection of material reality but its weird to list it twice.
It exists, but like, in the same way species exists. The variety and frequency of intersex conditions indicates that it’s two clusters of traits that most species that show this characteristic fall into one or the other of and certain components are remarkably mutable.
That understanding is just fundamentally different from the traditional understanding of two entirely distinct bins that anyone who doesn’t fall into one or the other is a strong outlier and the only alterations are castration or divine intervention (at least in euro-christian tradition).
The two bin model is going to work ok on most humans, it’s not like it’s an obviously wrong one. But as society and science have advanced we’ve found more intersex people that either didn’t know (my cousin would have just been understood as barren, and nobody would’ve noticed my ex’s mom having XY sex chromosomes) or didn’t understand that it wasn’t just some weird quirk that you either hide in shame or just don’t feel is worth mentioning. And anywhere you try to draw a firm line or any trait you try to point to try to ignore the gray is going to leave you with an awkward grouping in some way
I read “biological sex” as in sex between biological organisms… i do actually know the proper meaning (and difference from gender), feel very dumb now.
Absolutely! A lot of trans and intersex people negatively react to the concept, because these oversimplifications are pretty heavily used against us, but we also have a tendency to forget the average sincere understanding of the topic, and sometimes this can come off as making a bold and controversial statement, not including nuance, and walking away. Very similar to someone saying “the earth isn’t a sphere” and not following it up with how it’s an oblate spheroid, or saying dinosaurs still are still alive and not bothering to clarify that those dinosaurs are all birds.
And yeah, if it wasn’t obvious I think it’s valuable to talk about this sort of thing in a non-judgemental and accessible manner, in part because it can help reduce the sense of shame and awkwardness associated with the natural variety of this intimate aspect of our biology.
I can understand the idea behind 8 of these?
But “biological sex exists”… is a lie how? Unless its a variant on “objects exist” as a lie to refer to the rejection of material reality but its weird to list it twice.
It exists, but like, in the same way species exists. The variety and frequency of intersex conditions indicates that it’s two clusters of traits that most species that show this characteristic fall into one or the other of and certain components are remarkably mutable.
That understanding is just fundamentally different from the traditional understanding of two entirely distinct bins that anyone who doesn’t fall into one or the other is a strong outlier and the only alterations are castration or divine intervention (at least in euro-christian tradition).
The two bin model is going to work ok on most humans, it’s not like it’s an obviously wrong one. But as society and science have advanced we’ve found more intersex people that either didn’t know (my cousin would have just been understood as barren, and nobody would’ve noticed my ex’s mom having XY sex chromosomes) or didn’t understand that it wasn’t just some weird quirk that you either hide in shame or just don’t feel is worth mentioning. And anywhere you try to draw a firm line or any trait you try to point to try to ignore the gray is going to leave you with an awkward grouping in some way
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I read “biological sex” as in sex between biological organisms… i do actually know the proper meaning (and difference from gender), feel very dumb now.
You explained it well though. Thanks!
Absolutely! A lot of trans and intersex people negatively react to the concept, because these oversimplifications are pretty heavily used against us, but we also have a tendency to forget the average sincere understanding of the topic, and sometimes this can come off as making a bold and controversial statement, not including nuance, and walking away. Very similar to someone saying “the earth isn’t a sphere” and not following it up with how it’s an oblate spheroid, or saying dinosaurs still are still alive and not bothering to clarify that those dinosaurs are all birds.
And yeah, if it wasn’t obvious I think it’s valuable to talk about this sort of thing in a non-judgemental and accessible manner, in part because it can help reduce the sense of shame and awkwardness associated with the natural variety of this intimate aspect of our biology.