I dont see how Iran getting to toll an international straight that at least 8 other nations have a valid claim to is bad only for the usa. Its a wrench in the whole world economy as resources that are used by the whole world move through there regularly. Its not imperialist of me to think of global economics, is it?
The MOU specifically forbids tolls. Iran seems to be taking them anyway, but that’s more on America’s unwillingness/inability to enforce the agreement than the agreement itself. That said all of Hormuz is inside either Iranian or Omani territorial waters, so if both sides agreed they could legally do whatever they want with the strait.
Interesting, then, that you have shown support for Iran and Oman taxing the straight at the detriment of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, and Bahrain directly, as well as its global effects.
The status quo, in the case of the straight of hormuz before Isreali/US aggression, was beneficial to every country across the planet. I lament that the new deal Trump is signing is demonstrably worse for everyone everywhere except Iran, and as you mention Oman. Yet im accused of supporting Imperialism, by you, a supposed leftist who seems to be celebrating Iran gaining the opportunity to do some Imperialism by taxing the straight.
Interesting, then, that you have shown support for Iran and Oman taxing the straight at the detriment of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, and Bahrain directly, as well as its global effects.
I don’t in fact support that (at least not without qualifications), but also you’re overestimating the impact any such tolls would have. The $1 per barrel Iran proposed/collected way back when aren’t actually that much compared to the price of oil even before the war ($60-80 per barrel). Again I don’t support it, but it’s also not as big of a deal as you’re making it out to be.
I lament that the new deal Trump is signing is demonstrably worse for everyone everywhere except Iran, and as you mention Oman
Again, the deal specifically forbids collecting tolls. Iran is doing that anyway, but nothing Trump signed says Iran gets to collect tolls on Hormuz. Iran is collecting those tolls in violation of the terms they signed in Islamabad. If your problem with the deal is the status of Hormuz, then it straight up doesn’t exist.
You’re literally just lying about the tolls. The deal includes that Iran will be processing a fee for passing ships, but not indicating what service they are providing. Thats a toll. Most importantly, it wasnt there before, but now will be due to the atrocious actions of trump and Netanyahu.
I dont see how Iran getting to toll an international straight that at least 8 other nations have a valid claim to is bad only for the usa. Its a wrench in the whole world economy as resources that are used by the whole world move through there regularly. Its not imperialist of me to think of global economics, is it?
The MOU specifically forbids tolls. Iran seems to be taking them anyway, but that’s more on America’s unwillingness/inability to enforce the agreement than the agreement itself. That said all of Hormuz is inside either Iranian or Omani territorial waters, so if both sides agreed they could legally do whatever they want with the strait.
I dont think you are actually against oppression, just the united states.
I, like any self-respecting leftist, am against both oppression and the United States. Hope that helps.
Interesting, then, that you have shown support for Iran and Oman taxing the straight at the detriment of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, and Bahrain directly, as well as its global effects.
The status quo, in the case of the straight of hormuz before Isreali/US aggression, was beneficial to every country across the planet. I lament that the new deal Trump is signing is demonstrably worse for everyone everywhere except Iran, and as you mention Oman. Yet im accused of supporting Imperialism, by you, a supposed leftist who seems to be celebrating Iran gaining the opportunity to do some Imperialism by taxing the straight.
I don’t in fact support that (at least not without qualifications), but also you’re overestimating the impact any such tolls would have. The $1 per barrel Iran proposed/collected way back when aren’t actually that much compared to the price of oil even before the war ($60-80 per barrel). Again I don’t support it, but it’s also not as big of a deal as you’re making it out to be.
Again, the deal specifically forbids collecting tolls. Iran is doing that anyway, but nothing Trump signed says Iran gets to collect tolls on Hormuz. Iran is collecting those tolls in violation of the terms they signed in Islamabad. If your problem with the deal is the status of Hormuz, then it straight up doesn’t exist.
You’re literally just lying about the tolls. The deal includes that Iran will be processing a fee for passing ships, but not indicating what service they are providing. Thats a toll. Most importantly, it wasnt there before, but now will be due to the atrocious actions of trump and Netanyahu.
You sure? Can you quote the part where it says that? AFAIK Iran is just asserting that they can do that.
It was toll-free before the goddam war!