Whether the territory truly belonged to Poland is irrelevant. Frankly, I don’t give a shit whether Stalin was justified or if Poland was already collapsed. It’s just a matter of fact that they helped invade Poland. Russia and Poland still had a skirmish. Stalin and Hitler were in the talks. No reason to dance around it.
It’s just a matter of fact that they helped invade Poland
You believe this but it is in fact not a fact in the slightest. Again the soviets only entered “Poland” after the government had already fled and the army collapsed, they also only entered areas of Ukraine, Lithuania and Belarus that were under occupation by Poland from the interwar period. Not to mind it only came to this as the western powers and chiefly Poland refused to allow the soviets passage through Poland and a real alliance to fight Hitler in Czechoslovakia, with Poland preferring to ally with Hitler in attacking Czechoslovakia and the western powers preferring appeasement.
Also on the talks Slavs were one of the main “untermench” laid out in MeinKamf, there was never going to be any sort of real pact or alliance there both sides knew this. The Molotov Ribbentrop was a temporary nonaggression pact signed by the soviets after every attempt to form an anti Nazis alliance had failed and every other power had signed pacts with Hitler. It’s goal was to delay the inevitable long enough for the Soviets to industrialise after the civil war and to move the key factories beyond the Urals. This plan was clearly vindicated by history as the soviets dealt 80% of the Nazi casualties and the factories beyond the Urals allowed a quick counter offensive once the sieges of Stalingrad had been won and Moscow and Kursk had been held.
Why did you ask the question if you were just going to argue with the answer, to the point of just declaring that reality it wrong and that you’re just going treat your beliefs as “fact”
Whether the territory truly belonged to Poland is irrelevant. Frankly, I don’t give a shit whether Stalin was justified or if Poland was already collapsed. It’s just a matter of fact that they helped invade Poland. Russia and Poland still had a skirmish. Stalin and Hitler were in the talks. No reason to dance around it.
But just downvote me, it’s fine.
You are right and these people practically negating an invasion that happened Is stupid, but everyobe was in talk with Hitler, even Poland and UK
You believe this but it is in fact not a fact in the slightest. Again the soviets only entered “Poland” after the government had already fled and the army collapsed, they also only entered areas of Ukraine, Lithuania and Belarus that were under occupation by Poland from the interwar period. Not to mind it only came to this as the western powers and chiefly Poland refused to allow the soviets passage through Poland and a real alliance to fight Hitler in Czechoslovakia, with Poland preferring to ally with Hitler in attacking Czechoslovakia and the western powers preferring appeasement.
Also on the talks Slavs were one of the main “untermench” laid out in MeinKamf, there was never going to be any sort of real pact or alliance there both sides knew this. The Molotov Ribbentrop was a temporary nonaggression pact signed by the soviets after every attempt to form an anti Nazis alliance had failed and every other power had signed pacts with Hitler. It’s goal was to delay the inevitable long enough for the Soviets to industrialise after the civil war and to move the key factories beyond the Urals. This plan was clearly vindicated by history as the soviets dealt 80% of the Nazi casualties and the factories beyond the Urals allowed a quick counter offensive once the sieges of Stalingrad had been won and Moscow and Kursk had been held.
Russia was literally one of the last to make a deal with the nazis
Like the allies very famously took foreever to do anything of substance
Why did you ask the question if you were just going to argue with the answer, to the point of just declaring that reality it wrong and that you’re just going treat your beliefs as “fact”
Part of the act